NEW CYCLE SUS/TREN v. NEED PCT HELP

[wrestletib]

im planning on running sustanon250 @ 500mg shot twice a week for 10 weeks.
I also have Tren ace, and im planning on running 50mg ED for 6 weeks.

This is my first time with either drug.

I need help on PCT. should i run HCG? during?after?

what about sustain?, or should i use clomid instead?

also, how was your acne on tren?


Thanks EF.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I would wait one week after your last shot of test, then I'd do HCG and some clomid.
You can take some proviron during if your nipples get sensitive and you are gyno prone.

 

[wrestletib]

any more suggestions?

 

[cobracock1979]

any more suggestions?

OK,

Dude - Im on Tren/ prop cycle and posted the same question a couple of days ago. I have had several responces and am still undecided.

There are 2 schools of thought -

1. Take HCG throughout cycle (ie from week three) at say 250iu twice a week. This is prefereable on longer cycles (yours is long at 10 weeks) as it stops atrophy (shrinkage of testicles and coomplete natty test shut down).

2. Take large dose of HCG during PCT (ie 1000iu every other day for 10 days) to restart natural test.


In my opinion you would be better with option 1-

HCG is used to stop atrophy (shrinking balls an test shut down) or reverse it. 10 weeks on tren WILL shut you down. If you only use HCG during PCT only (option 2) you will have to restart your bollocks/ natural test production which is difficult.

Thats why option 1 is probably better for you - your balls will not shutdown while on cycle. Then use 50mg chlomid ed for 4-6 weeks (PCT start 3-5 days after last shot Tren Acetate or 10 days after last shot of Tren Enantate).

I am 4 weeks into my Tren cycle and am gonna run PCT from now upto PCT - if I have any HCG left over I will run it into PCT as well.

Vets/ Mod - please let me know what you think. I wanna get my PCT right as well.

 

[conundrum]

bump

 

[wrestletib]

can someone please chime in about adding clomid? after cycle? how would it be used?

example: hcg 3 weeks in all the way to 10 weeks.
clomid afterwards?

 

[702daswoll1]

clomid 1 week after last test shot. 50mg ed for 2-3 weeks.

 

[cobracock1979]

+1

I do 4 weeks Clomid. Sounds good. You will need to get bacteriostatic water to dilute HCG - the liquid vials you get in the pack wont keep. Bact water/ HCG mix lasts 30 days refrigerated.

 

[cobracock1979]

Heres the mixing procedure for HCG/ Bact water, courtesy of Guardian

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...-hcg-human-chorionic-gonadotropin-584086.html

Hit me with some Karma Bro! LOL

 

[BBBBig Phenom]

that is a fun cycle

 

[access]

Currently on Tren cycle now with Prop and Eq. My PCT will be Aromasin, IGF and Nolva. I also run HCG at 2 x 250ius'/week started at week 4.

I do not like Clomid and it doesn't like me so keep away from it but can be used also as others have suggested but still prefer Aromasin and Nolva.

 

[cobracock1979]

Currently on Tren cycle now with Prop and Eq. My PCT will be Aromasin, IGF and Nolva. I also run HCG at 2 x 250ius'/week started at week 4.

I do not like Clomid and it doesn't like me so keep away from it but can be used also as others have suggested but still prefer Aromasin and Nolva.

Wouldnt risk nolva for PCT - you will be using it with tren in your system

 

[access]

Wouldnt risk nolva for PCT - you will be using it with tren in your system

It's perfectly fine for PCT. I run the prop out one more week than the Tren and Eq and then start PCT two weeks after that.

I agree should not be used on cycle but for PCT it more than ok.

 

[cobracock1979]

Thats what what I thought but its not stryctky true - half on tren enant is about 10 days. That means that in 10 days the enant wont have gone - it will have halved. I was gonna do Nolva but ordered some Clomid - better safe for me

 

[cobracock1979]

sorry bro - just noticed your on Acetate. should be fine

 

[access]

I'm on Tren Ace...