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slag10

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this is my four cycle I'm gonna run test sus 1000 a week also gonna run tren e 200 a week androl 50 ed and dbol ed for 4 weeks then go clen for last four weeks 2weeks on then eod 2 on n 2 off I have never ran tren wanted to try e before I done ace just to see how sides r any info will help thanks
 
Wow!!! Really? 2 orals and usually people do ace first because its a short ester so you can ditch it quickly if sides get too bad. I see no mention of caber and ur estro conversion gonna b through the roof with a gram of test and dbol on top of it. Whats ur stats and cycle history. I would def lower ur test and pick either adrol or dbol. I think ur bp would be so high you wouldnt feel like doing shit.

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Here is a good video for you to watch where I explain the steroid trenbolone in depth: http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/video-trenbolone-explained-47719.html

Your cycle is overkill. Tren has an anabolic:androgenic ratio of 500/500. In comparison, testosterone has a ratio of 100/100. Tren is 5x stronger then testosterone mg per mg. Tren is a very powerful and effective steroid, but it can also be very harsh in the way of side effects. I would do a simple test/tren cycle. You will grow like a weed on your first cycle with tren.

I really like a dosage of 500mg/week for test and 300mg/week for tren. A little bit of tren goes a long way. I really see no need to ever use more then 300-400mg of tren per week.


A test/tren cycle needs 3 main support supplements:
1. An AI like aromasin to keep estrogen in the low-normal range
2. An anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline to keep prolactin in the low-normal range
3. Cardarine to increase fat loss, endurance and prevent tren related side effects like tren cough


Cardarine isn't talked about much as a support for a cycle with tren but it is fantastic for preventing tren related side effects. Tren is notorious for negatively impacting endurance and causing insulin resistance. Cardarine helps prevent that immensely.


This is how I would run a test/tren cycle:
Weeks 1 - 10
Testosterone e 500mg/week OR Test prop 100-150mg EOD
Tren e 300mg/week OR tren ace 50-75mg EOD
aromasin 10mg EOD
cabergoline 0.25mg EOD
cardarine 20mg/day


After the cycle run the perfect PCT protocol -> http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
 
i would not stack more androgens with tren because that is where the side effects really fuck you up. in this case you are stacking 3 potent androgens with tren which is already a strong androgen

this is counter productive because you will have nasty sides throughout
 
What are your goals for this cycle? I bet we can help design a more "healthy" cycle for you that will meet your goals. The test dose is very high and the 2 orals are interesting. I think if you ran each at a low dose I don't mind it........as long as you have run both before. If you ran into side effects on this cycle you would have no idea what it is from.
 
This is one crazy cycle you are planning to do, and it will definitely do more harm than good for you. I will not even bother saying what needs to be changed here, since you need to change the entire cycle for good. The dosages are very high, the compound selection is poor, and there are no ancillaries at all. This is all a good recipe for a disaster.
 
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