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Big Rick Rock said:
bootleg means they are taking a known brand and making "bootleg" products to look like the real ones... No reason to start a new company with an unknown name to make "bootleg" products.
With so many UG lab products floating around, I don't see why anybody should be alarmed by a new Mex brand.




Gosh... You are not that new to the game, you should understand the benefits of using encrypted e-mail. The web site is a Vet product site right?? They have to list the upcoming products even if they are not stocked yet right?? :qt:

My feeling on it is: From looking at the packaging I can tell a lot of care went into making these producs... Knowing full well what the prices for raw hormone powders now days, I can tell you that (good)packaging is as much of an expense as the Hormones themselves...
I don't see why anybody would go thru the trouble of screenprinting logos on bottles and having holograms made and investing money into nice looking boxes and top notch packaging just to put out bunk shit...
Sure if these guys were an UG Lab based out of the US, where powders can get seized by customs and shit can happen then there might be a reason to make a quick hit with bunk shit....
But these guys are based out of Mexico, they can import as much powders from China into Mexico as they want(legally), and at $1,500 for a Kilo ( 1,000 grams) of Test, and $1,900 for a Kilo of EQ... I can tell you they have every reason to put out good shit and no reason to put out bunk stuff.

Just my 2 cents.



Well it looks like I used the term bootleg wrong. I thought that bootleg and UG were interchangeable. Dont kid yourself BRR. Professional packaging just means the folks behind this could be a little smarter than the average UG lab. And regarding the e-mail thing ... of course I know the benefits of using a secure e-mail, I dont know why the hell a vet company would want to use one. Also, why would they use a hotmail account? To me, even if this is a legit company it has hack written all over it. Do you think that Organon, or Schering, or even real vet companies have there main contact as [email protected] ???? Any serious company has their own registered domain. If there is a large legit company sending me his hotmail e-mail, my first thoughts are that he is operating this from home, and is in fact a home based business.

THis is nothing new. Look at hubei for example. Have you ever seen the packaging on hubei gear? There's no such company as Hubei, it's a made up name.

The stuff was made and packaged by a famous powder and tab source in China. There was an exclusive distribution deal with a large eastern european source ( who chose the company name and packaging design ) . If you email the guy in China who used to make tabs for Brit Dragon he'll tell you the same info.

The product is still of high quality and did indeed use european oxandrolone. The packaging was just a simple move to make it worth more on the blackmarket.

THink of it ... would you rather buy var from a "supposedly" legit company with all of the professional packaging and labelling, and holograms, or from some UG lab with crappy labels. OF course you would rather by it from the legit company. THats what the big scam is ... you think that you are buying from a legit company, when really its a "fancy" UG setup laughing at you. Does it really matter if you are getting quality gear? Probably not, its just that people want to think that their gear is from a real pharm, or vet company. Thats all.

I am not saying that this company is bogus, just saying that its strange thats all. And why dont they show their other prods. Its like they want us to think there is a full line of prods, yet you can only see the steroids?

Have you ever seen the packaging of hubei? Well if you didnt .. here it is. Now tell me that that dosent look professional. Aparently its not to hard to make a hologram. I know lots of even UG labs that have them. People thought that this was a legit company for years. Although its very high quality gear, it is not a real company. Unless you call UG a company.

Mavy

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Ya ... I would bet its the same type of operation as hubei. There are a few americans living in Mexico, where they can run the operation without any legal troubles, by going this route, there prods will be worth more on the black market as compared to a regular UG lab. I guess a sure way to find out would be to have someone go to the actual plants listed in the address (which I would say probably dont exist, or lead to some pharmacy selling their UG stuff for him).

I guess I am just a conspiracy theorist. lol... THis could very well be real. But I wouldnt dismiss it off completely as being a fancy UG lab thats a little smarter than the average joe. People want to believe what they want to here. It would be good for someone to drive there and check things out, and get back to us .... lol. (and grab us some juice to test lol)

Mavy
 
Big Rick Rock said:
I don't see why anybody would go thru the trouble of screenprinting logos on bottles and having holograms made and investing money into nice looking boxes and top notch packaging just to put out bunk shit...

Thats just the thing that I am getting at here. They would more than likely never put out a bunk product. That would defeat the whole purpose. A high quality product would be the only way that something like this would work. THe only think that would be bunk is a legit vetrinarian plant where they manufacture the products. THis is the where the end customer would be fooled.
 
Mavy... Just what are you saying? you are all over the place bro... The lab is real, the lab is not real, it is a fancy UG lab... Just what is your opinion? Is it a Yeih or a Neih ?
What is the difference between a "Fancy UG lab" and a legitimate Mex lab like Denkkal or QV ?
If Animal Power is a registered licensed veterinarian Lab in Mexico, does that make it legit?

I guess the bottom line for me is the following: As long as the gear is up to label claims and doesn't cause any immune reactions(clean), it is all good to go.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Mavy... Just what are you saying? you are all over the place bro... The lab is real, the lab is not real, it is a fancy UG lab... Just what is your opinion? Is it a Yeih or a Neih ?
What is the difference between a "Fancy UG lab" and a legitimate Mex lab like Denkkal or QV ?
If Animal Power is a registered licensed veterinarian Lab in Mexico, does that make it legit?

I guess the bottom line for me is the following: As long as the gear is up to label claims and doesn't cause any immune reactions(clean), it is all good to go.

I hope this is good to go, 'cause I have a Schnauzer and a Rottweiler just wasting away....
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Mavy... Just what are you saying? you are all over the place bro... The lab is real, the lab is not real, it is a fancy UG lab... Just what is your opinion? Is it a Yeih or a Neih ?
What is the difference between a "Fancy UG lab" and a legitimate Mex lab like Denkkal or QV ?
If Animal Power is a registered licensed veterinarian Lab in Mexico, does that make it legit?

I guess the bottom line for me is the following: As long as the gear is up to label claims and doesn't cause any immune reactions(clean), it is all good to go.


For starters ... I dont know. This is just speculation on my part. Alls that I am saying is that there are a few things that seems suspicious for it to be a registered licensed veterinarian Lab. What I am trying to get at ... is that this could very well be just a regular UG lab, with gear made in a bathtub, packaged up nicely and served out to the consumer as a registered licensed veterinarian Lab from Mexico. My points to you, are that you can't rule this out based on nice labels and holograms etc. It has been done before.

"What is the difference between a "Fancy UG lab" and a legitimate Mex lab like Denkkal or QV

Whats the difference?? Well i think that its pretty straight forward. Even though vet gear has a rep of being dirty, it is still made in vetrinarian plant with expensive equipment and some type of standards to clear (lets hope), probably not as much as a human grade pharmaceutical lab, but at least some. An UG lab can be anything from a few doods cooking this shit up in their dirty basement in Mexico. You dont know. The fact is.. that it could be UG, and sold as a licensed vet product. I know that most people would rather buy from a registered licensed veterinarian Lab before they would buy it from an UG operation. Either way the quality could be top notch. There are many great UG labs out there. But selling UG basement gear, as being made from a registered licensed veterinarian Lab, is still a scam/lie to the user in a sense, even though they may be still getting a great product.

Look at hubei. People thought that they were buying pharmaceutical grade oxandrolone (along the same lines as SPA for example), when really it was made from some dood with a pill press and some powders. Is the user still getting oxandrolone either way? Yes he is ... but he is being fooled into thinking that he is buying from a pharmaceutical company. And paying the higher price for it as well. Catch what I am saying?

Mavy
 
About a month or two ago a very easy to find (in any search engine) mail order source from Mexico started listing "Power Animal" products in their price list. I wonder if it's the same company?
 
I dont know ... the more I look at the site the more I believe they are UG.

If you try a search on google, there is not one reference that comes up about animal power. Such as any business info, corporate info. If this is a new company .. there would be some kind of press release or some type of corporate info about them, such as QV. Even very small labs like BM Pharm in India have at least some business info you can find on the web.

I am looking at these facts.

- THis new mexican vet lab just pops out of nowhere

- They use hotmails, and cyber-rights as their main contacts. No domain name.

- They list a full suite of vetrinarian products ... But only have anabolic steroids listed ANYWHERE ON THE SITE. You cannot see other prods anywhere on the site. And I bet they never will ... why?? Becuase they dont intend on making them.

- They focus largely on their packaging and hologram etc. (They want the end user to believe that this is what makes them a licensed lab - its clearly not the case if you have seen hubei, or even british dragon, or many other UG labs).

- THey claim to have developed this new delivery vehicle? WTF? Do you really think that this would have come from a Mex vet lab before a multi-million dollar pharmaceutical lab like Schering or Organon, nordic, etc..

- Why the fuck would they care about this new delivery system for vet prods? Are you telling me that a horse will feel the difference between a shot of QV, and a shot of this new "Animal Power" with its new patented delivery vehicle? C'mon ... that is intended for us to read and here and say ... "damn ... painless gear ... gotta get me some of that".

"This is an International company created by the Union of French and Australia Specialists"? C'mon??? Why open house in Mexico??

I dont know ... I just find it a little strange. Like I say ... it could very well be a licensed lab. Or we could all be getting fooled ........ agian.

Mavy
 
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