Cure said:I don't know but i generally use upright rows for shoulders and tend to do
Bent Over Barbell rows
Deadlifts
Pull-downs
1-arm dumbell rows
weighted hyperextensions
All using extremely heavy weight for 6 reps. Full range of motion, perfect form.
Blood&Iron said:Well for what it's worth here's my current back workout(with biceps, rear delts, and traps thrown in):
Weighted Chins
Isolateral Seated Hammer Strength Row
Rack Deadlifts
Machine Pullovers
Isolateral Spider Curls(90 degrees)
Reverse Machine Fly
Smith Shrugs
I'm generally of the opinion that one should choose either squats OR deadlifts, as doing both when you're training hard just ends up being too much--at least in my case. Since I've got my routine split up into a leg day, back day, and chest day I also try to focus on the particular muscle I'm working and give everything else a rest. Regular deadlifts are a whole-body lift, rack deadlifts tend to use a bit of leg strength, but mostly emphasize the back, traps, etc. When I do rack deadlifts I start the movement at about 1-2 inches above my knees. Plus, yes, I get to go heavier--though I've dropped the weight and focused on my form, since I got a bit carried away in trying to up my poundages, and my low-back was not happy. Feels much better now.DaCypher said:
Rack deadlifts are when you lift from approximately knee level, right? Do you find these isolate the upper body more than a full deadlift? Or do you just like them because you can go heavier?![]()
Blood&Iron said:
I'm generally of the opinion that one should choose either squats OR deadlifts, as doing both when you're training hard just ends up being too much--at least in my case. Since I've got my routine split up into a leg day, back day, and chest day I also try to focus on the particular muscle I'm working and give everything else a rest. Regular deadlifts are a whole-body lift, rack deadlifts tend to use a bit of leg strength, but mostly emphasize the back, traps, etc. When I do rack deadlifts I start the movement at about 1-2 inches above my knees. Plus, yes, I get to go heavier--though I've dropped the weight and focused on my form, since I got a bit carried away in trying to up my poundages, and my low-back was not happy. Feels much better now.
What you're doing are called sumo deadlifts. Generally, I prefer regular deadlifts--though do whatever is most comfortable--but I actually very rarely perform deads. I no longer perform full-body workouts, and I don't really feel there is any good place to fit deads without some considerable overlap in the muscle groups I work. This results in not giving my legs sufficient recovery time. I'm not a powerlifter so I'm not really worried about dropping any particular lift even if it's as revered as the dead.DaCypher said:
That makes some sense. By the way, do you use a traditional stance when deadlifting? By traditional I mean feet approximately shoulder width and hands slightly wider (at least I think thats traditional). Lately I've been doing full deads on back day with a wide stance and hands inside the legs but I seem to be getting more sore in my glutes/lower back than anything else.
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