Nelson's Oral Recommendation

[Nelson Montana]

The purpose of esters is to keep even blood levels of the drug. The entire medical community understands that spiking levels up and down every day is what causes most side effect to worsen or even appear in the first place. Useing any oral only on training days is a terrible idea that would never be appropriate under any circumstances. It dramatically increases you chances of side effects from the steroids.

Nelson it's just amazing people read your stuff and follow it. Sometimes you're just dangerous.

Your statements are so idiotic they;re hardly worth addressing. You misunderstand most of the points and misrepresent the rest.

Say what you will -- you have a right to make stupid comments. But DO NOT claim that my advice is dangerous when most people who are familiar with my work would concur that I'm one the most staunch proponents of safety and health regarding the use of anabolics.

 

[Mrpumped]

How can you justify such improper name calling when all he did was call you dangerous? For that you call him idiotic and stupid? Why would you recommend anything that would cause an imbalance in blood levels if you're such a "staunch proponent of safety and health regarding the use of anabolics"?

 

[Nelson Montana]

How can you justify such improper name calling when all he did was call you dangerous?
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* CAPS ARE FOR CLARITY SAKE IN THE RESPONSE.

ACTUALLY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID. RE-READ IT.

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For that you call him idiotic and stupid?
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I DID NOT. ONCE AGAIN, RE-READ WHAT I WROTE. I SAID HIS COMMENTS WERE IDIOTIC. THEY ARE.

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Why would you recommend anything that would cause an imbalance in blood levels if you're such a "staunch proponent of safety and health regarding the use of anabolics"?

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DUDE, ALL ORALS CAUSE A RISE AND DECLINE IN BLOOD LEVELS NO MATTER HOW YOU USE THEM. USING THEM LESS OFTEN COULD ONLY LESSEN THE SIDE EFFECTS. THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. AND AS MENTIONED, IT'S JUST AN IDEA.

DO YOU KNOW OF A SINGLE PERSON WHO DID THIS AND SUFFERED HORRIBLE CONSEQUENCES? I DON'T, AND I'VE DONE IT. I KNOW LOTS OF GUYS WHO'VE DONE IT. NO PROBLEMS.

IT SEEMS THE ONLY QUESTION IS EXACTLY HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS AND AS MENTIONED, THAT'S UNCERTAIN. BUT STOP WITH THE 'YOU'RE DANGEROUS" BULLSHIT. I REALLY TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT. THERE ARE GUYS ON HERE TALKING ABOUT INSULIN, AND DNP, AND IGF AND TAKING GRAMS OF GEAR FOR MONTHS ON END. DON'T TELL ME A COUPLE OF DBOL THREE TIMES A WEEK IS IRRESPONSIBLE.

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[worldclass]

Your statements are so idiotic they;re hardly worth addressing. You misunderstand most of the points and misrepresent the rest.

Nelson attacking me is not an argument. Neither is saying my post is idiotic. Go ahead Nelson. Explain to everyone how spiking androgen levels doesn't induce side effects.


There is nothing for me to understand that I don't already. You're suggesting that people do something that will greatly enhance their chances of side effects. And yes, that's dangerous when so many people here think you know what you're doing.

I'm not making a personal attack on you as a person. I think you believe what you say and you say it without malice. But it's dead wrong to do and you should read up, acknowledge it, and not do it again.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson attacking me is not an argument. Neither is saying my post is idiotic. Go ahead Nelson. Explain to everyone how spiking androgen levels doesn't induce side effects.


There is nothing for me to understand that I don't already. You're suggesting that people do something that will greatly enhance their chances of side effects. And yes, that's dangerous when so many people here think you know what you're doing.

I'm not making a personal attack on you as a person. I think you believe what you say and you say it without malice. But it's dead wrong to do and you should read up, acknowledge it, and not do it again.

And I'm not making a personal attack on you. I'm just saying YOU'RE wrong and I take offense to the fact that you're suggesting what I'm saying is danergous. THAT is a dumb statement.

Saying that taking dianabol twice a day instead of four times a day is "dangerous" is a dumb statement.

Trying to be imperious and condescending with terms like "acknowledge (what you say) and not do it again" is a dumb statement. And kinda dicky.

What do you suggest I READ UP on? I'm not some newbie you're talking to dude. Save that crap for the bodybuilding.com kids.

 

[dosteov]

The purpose of esters is to keep even blood levels of the drug. The entire medical community understands that spiking levels up and down every day is what causes most side effect to worsen or even appear in the first place. Useing any oral only on training days is a terrible idea that would never be appropriate under any circumstances. It dramatically increases you chances of side effects from the steroids.

Nelson it's just amazing people read your stuff and follow it. Sometimes you're just dangerous.

Can't imagine how not taking orals everyday (only on workout days) can possibly be called dangerous either. If anything I would think it's safer since it's taxing the liver less, less estrogen means less chance of getting gyno and less harmful to lipid values and blood pressure.