Nelson, I bought your book, help please

[Anakin]

Ok, I bought Bottomline Bodybuilding and I must say it is very good, I think it is better than The Bodybuilding Truth.

Anyways, I have decided to start my first cycle ever in 3 months, and there are some questions I have about the 2 cycles you give in your book. It seems like you don't promote the primo-dbol cycle given in steroids for health anymore, because you want the last week to be all anabolic and non-androgenic instead of finishing with a dbol taper. Plus, I've also read recently that you suggest frontloading with some stronger stuff like sustanon.

So, this is the gear I brought from south america (thanks to bulk king who suggested i put amps inside a metal toothpaste tube ), and I know it's all real because I got it at drugstores: 13 PRIMO amps (100mg, schering germany)
2 TESTOVIRON 250mg amps (which is test enanthate by schering).

I will work on getting some dbol and stanozol tabs if necessary.

Instead of frontloading with sustanon, how about using testoviron? Also, you say that first timers should cut every dose in half, would you suggest frontloading with only 125mg of test? What about using more test the second week, would it be just 50mg then? I don't think you recommend cutting the primo doses in half since you've recently said that 200mg primo a week is a waste.

To make this thing shorter, how much of the above gear (of the 13 primo and 2 test amps) would you suggest a newbie should use for a 3 week cycle? I'll work on getting the oral stuff domestically but I just wanted to know what you think.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Anakin: Glad you're enjoying BLBB.

You can keep the primo as is, and just cut the d-bol and winny dosage in half. Do 200 mgs of test up front and another 100 the folowing week. That's pretty conservative but with the EOD Primo you should make really nice gains considering this is your first cycle and you're healthy.

Make the most of the nitrogen retaining qualities of the Primo and eat everything that walks, fly or swims -- and lots of it! Train like an animal. (No aerobics -- of course) and follow with the proper supps post cycle. You shouldn't need any anti-e's but stay concious of the nips. An unfortunate few are super sensitive to gyno -- rare at those dosages, but you never know.

Have fun, and let us know how you did a month or so from now.

 

[ripper2]

a three week cycle?!

 

[Anakin]

Ok thanks a lot Nelson, I will start the cycle in late november or early december so results will be posted by the end of the year.

When you say keep primo at the same dosage, I assume you mean the dosages from the "perfect cycle" (which has higher dosages) not steroids for health right? Also, what oral can I use for the 2nd week assuming I don't get any oxandrolone, should I go for dbol or winny? BTW, I'm only interested in keepable gains, I don't want to blow up and shrink afterwards.
I have primo and testoviron (and 20 proviron 25mg tabs just in case), so now I only have to get some orals.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Winny is a good sub for var, but take some Fish oil and apple pectin with it to keep LDL/HDL in check.