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40butpumpin
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i know you've recommended both, can you let me know what your opinion is please.
thanks in advance.
thanks in advance.
Nelson...Cnidium, Xantho, or both, how much and when? please.
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Forgive my ignorance...but what are these two drugs?
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take a look at this bro...
CNIDIUM monnieri is now a 4:1, 10% osthole extract. A dose as little as 50mg is said to increase nitric oxide (NO) release, promote smooth muscle relaxation, and inhibit the enzyme PDE-5 (as do the leading prescription products), allowing the penis or clitoris to become filled with blood for longer periods of time. Improves sexual function when taken about an hour before sex, usually with xanthoparmelia, yohimbe, citrulline or arginine, horny goat weed, mucuna, etc. May be helpful for circulation and is found in many Chinese sleep formulas. 100-400 doses, 20 grams, $4.75 Code 883.0
XANTHOPARMELIA scabrosa (now 10:1, 7-8% alkaloidsis) a lichen said to be a natural source of a pyrimidine compound found in leading prescription medications for erectile dysfunction that inhibits PDE-5 enzyme that binds to and breaks down cGMP, the smooth muscle relaxer produced by NO. With PDE-5 inhibited, cGMP allows the penis or clitoris to remain filled with blood. May benefit general circulation. Possible dose 50-100mg, often with *883 cnidium. 200-400 doses, 20 grams, $4.50 Code 882.0
CNIDIUM monnieri is now a 4:1, 10% osthole extract. A dose as little as 50mg is said to increase nitric oxide (NO) release, promote smooth muscle relaxation, and inhibit the enzyme PDE-5 (as do the leading prescription products), allowing the penis or clitoris to become filled with blood for longer periods of time. Improves sexual function when taken about an hour before sex, usually with xanthoparmelia, yohimbe, citrulline or arginine, horny goat weed, mucuna, etc. May be helpful for circulation and is found in many Chinese sleep formulas. 100-400 doses, 20 grams, $4.75 Code 883.0
XANTHOPARMELIA scabrosa (now 10:1, 7-8% alkaloidsis) a lichen said to be a natural source of a pyrimidine compound found in leading prescription medications for erectile dysfunction that inhibits PDE-5 enzyme that binds to and breaks down cGMP, the smooth muscle relaxer produced by NO. With PDE-5 inhibited, cGMP allows the penis or clitoris to remain filled with blood. May benefit general circulation. Possible dose 50-100mg, often with *883 cnidium. 200-400 doses, 20 grams, $4.50 Code 882.0
Looks like you answered your own question 40. Good info on both.
IMO,taking 50 mgs of Xanthoparmilia with 50 mgs of Cnidium and 4 grams of arginine (which is dirt cheap) will give effects comparable to 50 mgs of viagra. And it's a lot less expensive.
I reommended each in the product line I helped develop since libido and erectile function is so important after a cycle. Unleashed has 50 mgs of Xantho and Post-Cycle has 50 mgs of Cndium (and some arginine, lecithin and zinc for seminal volume) . If you took a dose of each with extra arginine you should be be hitting the poontang pretty hard. Even after a cycle you may be thinking; 'Suppression? What's suppression?'
Seriously, it isn't a miracle but it's so damn close to using bromo or dosinex or calais, I truly don't think there's a reason to use drugs -- although I can't believe Cnidium isn't classified as one.
IMO,taking 50 mgs of Xanthoparmilia with 50 mgs of Cnidium and 4 grams of arginine (which is dirt cheap) will give effects comparable to 50 mgs of viagra. And it's a lot less expensive.
I reommended each in the product line I helped develop since libido and erectile function is so important after a cycle. Unleashed has 50 mgs of Xantho and Post-Cycle has 50 mgs of Cndium (and some arginine, lecithin and zinc for seminal volume) . If you took a dose of each with extra arginine you should be be hitting the poontang pretty hard. Even after a cycle you may be thinking; 'Suppression? What's suppression?'
Seriously, it isn't a miracle but it's so damn close to using bromo or dosinex or calais, I truly don't think there's a reason to use drugs -- although I can't believe Cnidium isn't classified as one.
Yohimbine works by a different pathway. It's blood dialtor, increasing flow to the extremities, (including the penis) wheras Xantho and Cndium increases NO, like viagra does. Using both can be very powerful, unless you're one of the unfortunate few (lke myself) who experience anxiety from yohimbine.
40butpumpin
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thanks Nelson, i just needed to hear from someone with first hand experience, from someone i trust.
you know there's another that's caught my interest too, please see the following...
NEW! L-CITRULLINE NOW AVAILABLE!! is an amino acid derived from watermelons best known as a precursor to arginine. It optimizes arginine levels which provide a time-release effect for the production of nitric oxide (NO). NO produces cGMP which relaxes blood vessels creating better circulation, normalizing blood pressure, and improving sexual function in women and erections in men. Erectile dysfunction prescription drugs work by keeping cGMP levels high. Citrulline has doubled cGMP levels. It also detoxifies ammonia, promotes relaxation, and fights fatigue. Usual dose is up to 1.9g 2x/day or before sex. Compare price to tablets with SRP of $35 for 56g. See also *881 jujube, *882 xanthoparmelia & *883 cnidium. 100 grams, $25.00 Code 010.0
have you seen or tried this one yet?
thanks again.
you know there's another that's caught my interest too, please see the following...
NEW! L-CITRULLINE NOW AVAILABLE!! is an amino acid derived from watermelons best known as a precursor to arginine. It optimizes arginine levels which provide a time-release effect for the production of nitric oxide (NO). NO produces cGMP which relaxes blood vessels creating better circulation, normalizing blood pressure, and improving sexual function in women and erections in men. Erectile dysfunction prescription drugs work by keeping cGMP levels high. Citrulline has doubled cGMP levels. It also detoxifies ammonia, promotes relaxation, and fights fatigue. Usual dose is up to 1.9g 2x/day or before sex. Compare price to tablets with SRP of $35 for 56g. See also *881 jujube, *882 xanthoparmelia & *883 cnidium. 100 grams, $25.00 Code 010.0
have you seen or tried this one yet?
thanks again.
I'm way ahead of you. Haven't tried it yet, but it's on the list. Since it's a precursor to arginine I'm not all that excited since I can just take arginine. It's cheap and has no side effects. But Ill be checking it out. If you give it go, let me know what you think, Or if anyone has any experence with it...share.
40butpumpin
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sure thing. from the description it may actually assist arginine so it may be interesting to try with arginine. which brings up another question: what is the best form of arginine these days, it seems to change every 6 months. i also wonder if it's working on cGMP in the same way as the other two or by some other mechanism which would also be nice. i like the sound of this.
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