Needto/Nelson: Question about HCG

[almost-pro]

How much is too much to run every week? This is simply to restore test.

To add, I have been on something for quite a while. I've been taking about 1,500iu/week of HCG the whole time. Is 5,000iu too much to take in 1 week, split up into 2-3 doses?

 

[Nelson Montana]

How much is too much to run every week? This is simply to restore test.

To add, I have been on something for quite a while. I've been taking about 1,500iu/week of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - the whole time. Is 5,000iu too much to take in 1 week, split up into 2-3 doses?

If 2000 iu's doesn't bring the boys back, you're wasting your time. Too much more will just supress you. 500 a day for a couple of days usually does it.

 

[needtogetaas]

How much is too much to run every week? This is simply to restore test.

To add, I have been on something for quite a while. I've been taking about 1,500iu/week of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - the whole time. Is 5,000iu too much to take in 1 week, split up into 2-3 doses?

dame bro thats a hle lot of hcg...what was your cycle what are you trying to do here...are you on cycle off cycle whats the problem I am sure you dont need that much.

 

[almost-pro]

dame bro thats a hle lot of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - ...what was your cycle what are you trying to do here...are you on cycle off cycle whats the problem I am sure you dont need that much.

ive been on something for a while, but i've been doing HCG weekly. Its hard for me to tell when im shut down because i honestly never feel much different. I just notice my boys shrink up, other than that if it wasn't for bloodwork I wouldn't be able to tell.

ive been on a minimum of 250mg test for atleast 6 months, up to 750 or so. at some points i was running anavar with it, now im on winstrol.

 

[halfaclue]

I can tell you that my doctor has me on 2500iu's EOD so that is 7500-10,000 a week depending on the week. Its for fertility issues but seems to be helping with my test levels as well. 6 weeks ago my one test level was 1.2 and I think they said the normal range was like 1.7-8.2 or something like that. Just had blood work done after 4 weeks of that dose and my test levels were 4.4.

 

[needtogetaas]

ive been on something for a while, but i've been doing HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - weekly. Its hard for me to tell when im shut down because i honestly never feel much different. I just notice my boys shrink up, other than that if it wasn't for bloodwork I wouldn't be able to tell.

ive been on a minimum of 250mg test for atleast 6 months, up to 750 or so. at some points i was running anavar with it, now im on winstrol.

well you have to come off the aas some time bro and keep doing the hcg for a wile after that...you cant stay on aas for way to long and keep using hcg thinking its going to save you..sooner or later the prolonged hcg use will just have the same effect as the aas.you will become desensitized

 

[almost-pro]

well you have to come off the anabolic androgenic steroids some time bro and keep doing the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - for a wile after that...you cant stay on anabolic androgenic steroids for way to long and keep using HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - thinking its going to save you..sooner or later the prolonged HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - use will just have the same effect as the anabolic androgenic steroids.you will become desensitized

in the process of doing so.... sunday was last shot of T. I am going to keep running my l-femara for another 2 weeks and then switch to nolva.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Holy monkey fuck! Dude, you can't stay on non stop and then do endless high dosages of HC G.

And alfaclue, that seems extrodinarily excessive, even for fertility reasons, which in itself is suspect since the increased fertility is designed for women.

Sometimes circumstances are so off base I don;t even know how answer them.

 

[enacer420nj]

I can tell you that my doctor has me on 2500iu's EOD so that is 7500-10,000 a week depending on the week. Its for fertility issues but seems to be helping with my test levels as well. 6 weeks ago my one test level was 1.2 and I think they said the normal range was like 1.7-8.2 or something like that. Just had blood work done after 4 weeks of that dose and my test levels were 4.4.

you run an AI with that? Id have tits the size of dolly parton

 

[almost-pro]

Holy monkey fuck! Dude, you can't stay on non stop and then do endless high dosages of HC G.

And alfaclue, that seems extrodinarily excessive, even for fertility reasons, which in itself is suspect since the increased fertility is designed for women.

Sometimes circumstances are so off base I don;t even know how answer them.

Im not doing endless high doses. Ive been doing 1500iu/week. Which from every article i've read about HCG, the doses range from 2000iu-5000iu per week. The articles were related to restoring natural test.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Im not doing endless high doses. Ive been doing 1500iu/week. Which from every article i've read about HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , the doses range from 2000iu-5000iu per week. The articles were related to restoring natural test.

Who wrote those articles? If you took 5000iu's a week of Hc G you'd soon have no LH and no ledig cells.

 

[almost-pro]

Who wrote those articles? If you took 5000iu's a week of Hc G you'd soon have no lh - leutenizing hormone - and no ledig cells.

here is one, ill post the rest after i cook dinner..

http://www.deca-sustanon.com/HCG.htm

 

[almost-pro]

http://www.extremefitness.com/forum...9797-understanding-post-cycle-t-recovery.html

 

[needtogetaas]

thats just to much dame hcg imo

 

[bsdgeek]

I got similar stuff from my doc too. he says start about 2 weeks after my last pin. do one large dose(say 3 - 5000 iu) then 2 - 2500 every 3rd or 4th day. doing clomid when I first pin hcg the first time. he even copied a page out of his book(anabolics 2004), and told me that this is the way he's done it for years, and dude, he's pretty freakin big, I've seen contest pics and everything. he's the real deal, and an MD to boot. feedback, suggestions? nelson is he waaay off or right on? needto?

 

[holy ghost]

Yall should start WU'ing nelson and n2 green for all these Q's


or at least give them some K once in a while Fn ouch!

 

[bsdgeek]

Yall should start WU'ing nelson and n2 green for all these Q's


or at least give them some K once in a while Fn ouch!

g-man, you're a trip! lol

 

[Nelson Montana]

I got similar stuff from my doc too. he says start about 2 weeks after my last pin. do one large dose(say 3 - 5000 iu) then 2 - 2500 every 3rd or 4th day. doing clomid when I first pin HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - the first time. he even copied a page out of his book(anabolics 2004), and told me that this is the way he's done it for years, and dude, he's pretty freakin big, I've seen contest pics and everything. he's the real deal, and an MD to boot. feedback, suggestions? nelson is he waaay off or right on? needto?

He copied a page out of his book?

Dude, I don't care how big he is, that's too much HC G-- not that it wouldn't work, it's just total overkill. How do you know if his dick works? And since you build up a tolerance to anything (and HC G is one which downgrades preety fast) I'm saying it's bad advice. At any rate, what you're doing is not what the other guy is doing -- staying on for half a year with big daily doses of HC G.

 

[BIGMIke007]

I normally do 500IU/week from halfway through my cycle till 1 week after last shot and then 1 week of 500iu ED.

 

[bsdgeek]

He copied a page out of his book?

Dude, I don't care how big he is, that's too much HC G-- not that it wouldn't work, it's just total overkill. How do you know if his dick works? And since you build up a tolerance to anything (and HC G is one which downgrades preety fast) I'm saying it's bad advice. At any rate, what you're doing is not what the other guy is doing -- staying on for half a year with big daily doses of HC G.

tru that! And i wouldn't know bout his pee pee

 

[almost-pro]

He copied a page out of his book?

Dude, I don't care how big he is, that's too much HC G-- not that it wouldn't work, it's just total overkill. How do you know if his dick works? And since you build up a tolerance to anything (and HC G is one which downgrades preety fast) I'm saying it's bad advice. At any rate, what you're doing is not what the other guy is doing -- staying on for half a year with big daily doses of HC G.

i haven't been doing this..... i don't take it daily. i stated right now 1500iu a week which from everything i've read seems to be normal. basically i was just asking if i could go up when my cycle stops completely.

 

[bsdgeek]

He copied a page out of his book?

Dude, I don't care how big he is, that's too much HC G-- not that it wouldn't work, it's just total overkill. How do you know if his dick works? And since you build up a tolerance to anything (and HC G is one which downgrades preety fast) I'm saying it's bad advice. At any rate, what you're doing is not what the other guy is doing -- staying on for half a year with big daily doses of HC G.

so how bout this:

(keep in mind- this example was written for 500mg/wk sus)

his original page said to dose at this, i'll leave clomid out for now, but for the hcg:

Mon. - last pin
Mon. - (14 days later) - 5000 iu
Thu. - (3 days later) - 2500 iu
Mon. - (4 days later) - 2500 iu
Fri. - (4 days later) - 2500 iu
Tue. - (4 days later) - 2500 iu
Sat. - (4 days later) - 1250 iu

this is the example copied out of his book(above). this is what I was thinkin(below), let me know if I'm good to go or not. (I'm comin off test cyp 500 mg/wk) And I'm actually going to crash this time to get bloodwork right, to go on hrt, get a script, etc etc. But after bloodwork, this is what I'm planning to pick em back up, probably gonna do some clomid to this time. Goin back on in late dec anyway.

Mon. - last pin
Mon. - (14 days later) - 2500 iu
Thu. - (3 days later) - 1500 iu
Mon. - (4 days later) - 1500 iu
Fri. - (4 days later) - 1500 iu
Tue. - (4 days later) - 1500 iu
Sat. - (4 days later) - 1000 iu

Nelson, thanks in advance!

 

[halfaclue]

you run an aromatase inhibitor with that? Id have tits the size of dolly parton

Just taking the HCG and 25mg of Clomid EOD

 

[halfaclue]

Also Nelson...My LH levels improved between blood tests. I can get the before and after numbers from my doctor if you want exacts but they gave me a script for 2 more months of the same regiment so by the time of my next semen analysis and blood work it will be 3 straight months of 2500 iu HCG and 25mg Clomid EOD. Not sure if weight has anything to do with the dosages because I guy i met at this doctors is only on 1500 EOD but he looks like he is 150lbs and I'm 270.

 

[1tight_tl]

well you have to come off the anabolic androgenic steroids some time bro and keep doing the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - for a wile after that...you cant stay on anabolic androgenic steroids for way to long and keep using HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - thinking its going to save you..sooner or later the prolonged HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - use will just have the same effect as the anabolic androgenic steroids.you will become desensitized

How long does it take for people to become desensitized? If you take all 16 weeks during your cycle and then during PCT, is that too long? or are you talking about these excessively long 6 months cycles?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Lots of questions. First of all I stand corrected in that I meant to say weekly inj, not daily. It's still too much to do on an ongoing basis.

The thing with HC G is this: it's a temporary fix. It does not increase LH, it mimics it. And anytime a drug does that, there will be supression. The whole point is to get the testes back up to speed quickly at which point you should stop treatment and, hopefully, your body will take over and work on its own. This is where supps can help. If you keep blasting them with artificial stimuli and then shutting them back down, what do you think will happen?

Now on HR T, I recommend a little HC G once in a while for two reasons -- one, to force the body to produce some T on its own, and two, for cosmetic reasons. At 100 mgs a week there isn't much atrophy, but after a while the boys can use a little plumping up. So basically, there's a very good way to tell how much you need. Did your balls get full again? If so, mission accomplished. Yet, if you're dousing them with multiple doses and nothing is happening, what's the point of continuing?