Need your advice on this...

[Smirnoff]

Will be first cycle ever. At 6'1" , 220 lbs , approx 15%bf and 36 years old.
Will try : (anti-e on hand)

Weeks 1-10: Test cyp 200 mg / week and deca 200 mg / week
Weeks 7-12: Winny 40-50 mg / daily
Weeks 13-16: pct

Looking to keep muscle while leaning out (main goal) and getting a little more vascular.
Clean diet (not sure on the calories just yet) and maybe 30 min cardio 3 x week. Also aware of some of the water bloat expected.
Anyone used similar cycle? What would you think expectations would be on this one? Thanks for your help and replies!

 

[NaturalOnlyAtBirth]

Personally my suggestion would be 500mg test / week and save the deca for your second cycle. Winny is pretty mild for me so if your intent on running it I don't see a problem. Generally though most are going to suggest running a single compound to see how your body reacts. You say you have anti-e's on hand, what exactly do you have?

If you do decide to run the deca remember that it's progesterone and not estrogen that you will need to worry about so Nolva will not cut it for you.

And what/how do you plan to run for your PCT?

 

[LVTitan]

those are very low doses so i wouldnt be too worried about getting bad sides. but yeah, personally for a first cycle i'd double your test and drop the deca.

 

[Bruce]

i agree as well use test alone and winny at the end. they say use on thing first time, but i used winny at the end of my deca alone cycle. like he said mild aas like that won't be a problem as first time. just might want to consider var over the winny if you can afford cause your joints will thank u

 

[DIVISION]

DIVISIONAL CHANGES:

Weeks 1-10: Sustanon250MG/ week
Weeks 7-12: Winny 50 mg / daily
Weeks 13-16: pct




Now that's gangsta!

You want your first cycle to be clean and light in order to see how you react to a low dose of test and winny. You could do the test alone, but the winny will give you a boost.






DIV

 

[pentatonic]

I personally would keep Test Cyp. at 200, or even Sustanon at 250 as Division said and dropping the Deca, running Win at the end if you wanted to. I don't see a need in raising the test since your looking to just maintain muscle while cutting fat.

 

[Smirnoff]

First, thanks for the replies, Guys! To respond to some of the items mentioned in the posts...
Yeah, I know 200 mg test is a lower dose than norm, but was about all I can get currently. The deca is included for my joints. I have always trained heavy-duty style, and the years are working on my joints more! I would like to increase some lean mass, but I know it will be hard while trying to strip some ab fat. Has anyone used a similar cycle / dosages & what were your results (any helpful advice that you might would have done different had you known something). Again, thanks for the posts...

 

[silverbackn]

First, thanks for the replies, Guys! To respond to some of the items mentioned in the posts...
Yeah, I know 200 mg test is a lower dose than norm, but was about all I can get currently. The deca is included for my joints. I have always trained heavy-duty style, and the years are working on my joints more! I would like to increase some lean mass, but I know it will be hard while trying to strip some ab fat. Has anyone used a similar cycle / dosages & what were your results (any helpful advice that you might would have done different had you known something). Again, thanks for the posts...

Wait until you have enough gear to run a decent cycle. I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing me say this, but I would run 500mg's of test with 300mg's of deca (since you have had joint issues).

 

[LVTitan]

Wait until you have enough gear to run a decent cycle. I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing me say this, but I would run 500mg's of test with 300mg's of deca (since you have had joint issues).

i ran this exact cycle last winter and loved everything about it (except acne)
anyway, i had SEVERE shoulder pain for years, the deca took that shit away, and it still hasnt come back, 6 months later. !!!

 

[RADAR]

Your 1st cycle is the best wait until you have more test!


RADAR

 

[silverbackn]

i ran this exact cycle last winter and loved everything about it (except acne)
anyway, i had SEVERE shoulder pain for years, the deca took that shit away, and it still hasnt come back, 6 months later. !!!

It was my first cycle and I absolutely loved it! I was a pitcher in college so I have had my share of shoulder pain too, it greatly helped.