Need T3 Advise please!

[slash747]

I am in week 8 of

600mg/E6D EQ ( Week 1-12 )
50mg/Day Var ( Week 1-12 )
NPP Deca 200mg/E3D ( Week 1-4 )

I am at 5'9 240, 24%bf <---- I want to get this down to under 18%. Up until now I have been eating whatever I can get my hands on that has high protein. Along with cleaning up my diet, I was thinking of using:

Product Name : Tertroxin (Sold under the brand name Cytomel in the US)
Product Type : Synthetic T3 (Liothyronine)
Packaging and Product : 20 mcg tablets in bottles of 50 tablets
Manufacturer : Aspen
Product Classification : Prescription Medication

Anyone think this is a bad idea? I was thinking of going up to 100mcg. Starting at 20mcg and going up 20mcg every 3 days and then back down.

so :

day / Dosage
1 / 20mcg
4 / 40mcg
7 / 60mcg
10 / 80mcg
13 / 100mcg
16 / 100mcg
19 / 80mcg
22 / 60mcg
25 / 40mcg
28 / 20mcg
31 Off

Any side effects I should watch out for? I am currently on Provigil for Attention defeicit Disorder and have some mild depression but nothing to bad. My main concern is being able to concentrate, I have a hard enough time since Im so hyperactive. ECA stacks are wreak havok on my concentration and was wondering how much better or worse T3 would be.

Any help appreciated.

 

[halfaclue]

First off you shouldn't have started a bulking cycle when your BF is so high...second you should be able to diet down to 18% with ease...don't use the T-3 until you plateau with the weight loss.

 

[slash747]

I did not really consider EQ, Var as bulking, Deca yes, but I thought the EQ and Var would have helped me.

 

[concordsize]

Personally I would go 6 weeks with the t3. Also I see no reason to ramp up dose so slowly. I would start 40 or 60mcgs and then go up from there. I would then drop down to 20mcg for week 5 and 6. I have used t3 many times and have seen many lab results that reveal the thyroid to be much tougher then many believe it is.

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[dim]

i think its a great idea to burn the fat fast,doing t3 when bf% levels are above 20% burns a lot more fat than muscle

 

[halfaclue]

I did not really consider EQ, Var as bulking, Deca yes, but I thought the EQ and Var would have helped me.

Well it isn't d-bol, deca and enthate but definitely not a cutter. I would still suggest dieting down until you plateu before messing with the T-3

 

[slash747]

Is there an edgy feeling while on T3 like when on an ECA or Clen?? I can not stand that..

 

[concordsize]

no its not a stimulant. Although i feel slightly warm when on it.

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[slash747]

Well it isn't d-bol, deca and enthate but definitely not a cutter. I would still suggest dieting down until you plateu before messing with the T-3

Its hard to go into a dieting mode, I worked so hard to try to pack on the size, I dont want to diet and loose a shitload of muscle, granted I have a lot of fat to spare. Id rather take the last 4 weeks of my cycle while my body is still in a anabolic state and try to burn off all the fat ive accumulated while "bulking" while maintaing the muscle ive gained.

concordsize:

Only reason I chose the dosages and cycle of T3 that I pasted is because Ive seen alot of bros post the info this way. Is their any benefit of taking it the way you mentioned over the method I described?

Also how do you split youre dosages? How much time before bed do you take the last one?

 

[slash747]

I took 20mcg this morning, and at 72 degrees outside I was sweating. It actually made me feel kind of sick to my stomache. Also Im not sure its from the T3 or that I did legs yesterday , but I feel freakin exhausted.

Also seems like when you do a search for T3 under the search engine it does not allow you because too many results come back. I tried Cytomel but there does not seem to be many posts on that.

Anyone with any more info onm T3?

 

[figure8]

I am in week 8 of

600mg/E6D EQ ( Week 1-12 )
50mg/Day Var ( Week 1-12 )
NPP Deca 200mg/E3D ( Week 1-4 )

I am at 5'9 240, 24%bf <---- I want to get this down to under 18%. Up until now I have been eating whatever I can get my hands on that has high protein. Along with cleaning up my diet, I was thinking of using:

Product Name : Tertroxin (Sold under the brand name Cytomel in the US)
Product Type : Synthetic T3 (Liothyronine)
Packaging and Product : 20 mcg tablets in bottles of 50 tablets
Manufacturer : Aspen
Product Classification : Prescription Medication

Anyone think this is a bad idea? I was thinking of going up to 100mcg. Starting at 20mcg and going up 20mcg every 3 days and then back down.

so :

day / Dosage
1 / 20mcg
4 / 40mcg
7 / 60mcg
10 / 80mcg
13 / 100mcg
16 / 100mcg
19 / 80mcg
22 / 60mcg
25 / 40mcg
28 / 20mcg
31 Off

Any side effects I should watch out for? I am currently on Provigil for Attention defeicit Disorder and have some mild depression but nothing to bad. My main concern is being able to concentrate, I have a hard enough time since Im so hyperactive. ECA stacks are wreak havok on my concentration and was wondering how much better or worse T3 would be.

Any help appreciated.

WOOOOOWH!

 

[figure8]

Your at 18% bf! K first off Diet Diet Diet. Thats very high for a man. Second sounds like your trying to find the easy way out. Staying in shape is as easy as taking a pill, ita a lifestyle. You shouldnt eat whatever you can get your hands on! And then think "well I'll just take a pill to lose it"! once you lower your bf then take the t3 if you really want, personally I dont think anyone should take it unless there competing. The results are temporary. Im currently on iy myself and if you are going to take it diet down first. You wont lose muscle dieting either...what a myth. That is if you eat right. ( plenty of protien, train hard ect.)

 

[slash747]

I hear what you are saying, and actually right now im at over 20% BF. I am not a fat lazy slob though. Ive actually been going to the gym for the past 7 years. On top of that I am very active in sports. Mountain Biking, Moto Cross, Snowboarding ( Competively ), Basketball, etc... Its hard for, if not impossible for me to maintain any type of energy level with a restricted diet. I do not eat any processed foods, or fast foods, with the exception of Chinese food. I stick to whole grains, no butter, I use only Olive Oil. And I have found it impossible to drop under 14% naturally.

My diet looks like this as of 3 weeks ago:

8am: 2 Eggs, Ham, Low fat Swiss Cheese. 1 1/2 Cups of oats ( maple brown sugar flavor ) made with milk

12pm: Grilled Chicken or fish sandwich with a salad, Grapefruit Juice

4pm: Pre Gym snack Protein drink 50G Protein, 1 1/2 Cups of oats ( maple brown sugar flavor )

7-9pm: GYM

9PM: Post Workout meal, Myoplex Deluxe 50G Protein, with a gatorade

11pm: 16oz yogurt

Again like I said above, I want to burn off as much fat without loosing a ton of muscle.

Your at 18% bf! K first off Diet Diet Diet. Thats very high for a man. Second sounds like your trying to find the easy way out. Staying in shape is as easy as taking a pill, ita a lifestyle. You shouldnt eat whatever you can get your hands on! And then think "well I'll just take a pill to lose it"! once you lower your bf then take the t3 if you really want, personally I dont think anyone should take it unless there competing. The results are temporary. Im currently on iy myself and if you are going to take it diet down first. You wont lose muscle dieting either...what a myth. That is if you eat right. ( plenty of protien, train hard ect.)

 

[swordfish151]

Here's some information on T3 for you. Hopes this helps bro

Cytomel is not an anabolic/androgenic steroid but a thyroid hormone. As a substance it contains synthetically manufactured liothyronine sodium which resembles the natural thyroid hormone tricodide-thyronine (L-T3). The thyroid of a healthy person usually produces two hormones, the better known L-thyroxine (L-T4) and the aforementioned L-triiodine-thyronine (L-T3). Since Cytomel is the synthetic equivalent of the latter hormone, it causes the same processes in the body as if the thyroid were to produce more of the hormone. It is interesting to note that L-T3 is clearly the stronger and more effective of these two hormones. This makes Cytomel more effective than the commercially available L-T4 compounds such as L-thyroxine or Synthroid. L-T3 has proven to be 4-5 times more biologically active and to take effect more quickly than L-thyroxine (L-T4)." In school medicine Cytomel is used to treat thyroid insufficiency (hypothyroidism). Among other secondary symptoms are obesity, metabolic disorders, and fatigue. Bodybuilders take advantage of these characteristics and stimulate their metabolism by taking Cytomel, which causes a faster conversion of carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Body builders, of course, are especially interested in an increased lipolysis, which means increased fat burning. Competing body builders, in particular, use Cytomel during the weeks before a championship since it helps to maintain an extremely low fat content, without necessitating a hunger diet. Athletes who use low dosages of Cytomel report that by the simultaneous intake of steroids, the steroids become mote effective, most likely as the result of the faster conversion of protein.

To a great extent several body builders who are pictured in "muscle magazines" and display a hard and defined look in photos, eat fast food and iron this out by taking Cytomel. The over stimulated thyroid burns calories like a blast furnace. Nowadays, instead of Cytomel, athletes use Clenbuterol which is becoming more and more popular. Those who combine these two compounds will burn an enormous amount of fat. Cytomel is also popular among female body builders. Since women generally have slower metabolisms than men, it is extremely difficult for them to obtain the right form for a competition given today's standards. A drastic reduction of food and calories below the 1000 calorie/day mark can often be avoided by taking Cytomel. Women, no doubt, are more prone to side effects than men but usually get along well with 50 mcg/day. A short-term intake of Cytomel in a reasonable dosage is certainly "healthier" than an extreme hunger diet.

As for the dosage, one should be very careful since Cytomel is a very strong and highly effective thyroid hormone. It is extremely important that one begins with a low dosage, increasing it slowly and evenly over the course of several days. Most athletes begin by taking one 25-mcg tablet per day and increasing this dosage every three to four days by one additional tablet. A dose higher than 100-mcg/ day is not necessary and not advisable. It is not recommended that the daily dose be taken all at once but broken down into three smaller individual doses so that they become more effective. It is also important that Cytomel not be taken for more than six weeks. At least two months of abstinence from the drug needs to follow. Those who take high dosages of Cytomel over a long period of time are at risk of developing a chronic thyroid insufficiency. As a consequence, the athlete might be forced to take thyroid medication for the rest of his life. It is also important that the dosage is reduced slowly and evenly by taking fewer tablets and not be ended abruptly. Those who plan to take Cytomel should first consult a physician in order to be sure that no thyroid hyperfunction exists.

Possible side effects are: heart palpitation, trembling, irregular heartbeat, heart oppression, agita-tion, shortness of breath, excretion of sugar through the urine, excessive perspiration, diarrhea, weight loss, psychic disorders, etc., as well as symptoms of hypersensitivity." Our experience is that most symptoms consist of trembling of hands, nausea, headaches, high perspiration, and increased heartbeat. These negative side effects can often be eliminated by temporarily reducing the daily dosage. Those who use Cytomel over several weeks will experience a decrease in muscle mass. This can be avoided or delayed by simultaneously taking steroids. For the most part, since Cytomel also metabolizes protein, the athlete must eat a diet rich in protein.

 

[figure8]

I hear what you are saying, and actually right now im at over 20% BF. I am not a fat lazy slob though. Ive actually been going to the gym for the past 7 years. On top of that I am very active in sports. Mountain Biking, Moto Cross, Snowboarding ( Competively ), Basketball, etc... Its hard for, if not impossible for me to maintain any type of energy level with a restricted diet. I do not eat any processed foods, or fast foods, with the exception of Chinese food. I stick to whole grains, no butter, I use only Olive Oil. And I have found it impossible to drop under 14% naturally.

My diet looks like this as of 3 weeks ago:

8am: 2 Eggs, Ham, Low fat Swiss Cheese. 1 1/2 Cups of oats ( maple brown sugar flavor ) made with milk

12pm: Grilled Chicken or fish sandwich with a salad, Grapefruit Juice

4pm: Pre Gym snack Protein drink 50G Protein, 1 1/2 Cups of oats ( maple brown sugar flavor )

7-9pm: GYM

9PM: Post Workout meal, Myoplex Deluxe 50G Protein, with a gatorade

11pm: 16oz yogurt

Again like I said above, I want to burn off as much fat without loosing a ton of muscle.

I think you need more protien espceally at breakfast. You could also cut out the maple sugar flavored stuff. If you eat like what you just posted it would be very hard to get to 20% bf. You diet must have been worse before. Oh and always eat your protien first then your carbs. Dont eat a carb by itself unless you just got done training. Up the protien for starters.