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makaveli25

makaveli25

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okay bros heres my dilema i just came off a pretty long cycle of test E at 600mgs a week for about 20 weeks.. it was a pretty good cycle im happy with my results.. i was running equipose along with it but i stopped at around week 12 because my blood pressure was really getting high.. i started pct a week ago.. ive been having really shitty anxiet and headaches.. i just feel pretty shitty.. im maiting size and strengh though soo im happy about that.. this is what my pct looks like

aromasin 12.5 mg ed
dermacrine sustain 5 pumps ed
andro g 8 pills ed

i feel like my heart is racing a bit this happend when i was running the equipose.. any suggestions... thanks bros
 
I am not sure.

That is a very "unique" PCT. I always use clomid. And based on the length of your cycle I would have added H.C.G.

BTW what is andro g?
 
makaveli25 said:
okay bros heres my dilema i just came off a pretty long cycle of testosterone enanthate at 600mgs a week for about 20 weeks.. it was a pretty good cycle im happy with my results.. i was running equipose along with it but i stopped at around week 12 because my blood pressure was really getting high.. i started PCT - post cycle therapy - a week ago.. ive been having really shitty anxiet and headaches.. i just feel pretty shitty.. im maiting size and strengh though soo im happy about that.. this is what my PCT - post cycle therapy - looks like

aromasin 12.5 mg ed
dermacrine sustain 5 pumps ed
andro g 8 pills ed

i feel like my heart is racing a bit this happend when i was running the equipose.. any suggestions... thanks bros
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How long did you wait to start PCT after last shot of test?
Also, aromasin at 12.5mg ED might be too much, use same dosage E2D or E3D.
What's that andro g you taking?
Honestly, I do not see you mention H C G at all, and if you did not take it at all you are in for a rough road ahead.
For 20 week cycle you really need the heavy stuff for P C T like clomid/nolva, H C G, aromasin(you have that). THis is no time to experiment IMHO
 
i used 500 ius of hcg eod for the last 3 weeks of my cycle.. andro generator is kind of like mygonex .. i want to add some clomid but i dont think my body can handle all this different shit.. again here is my pct.. if you google andro generator youll read quite a few good threads about it

last 3 weeks of cycle 500 iu eod hcg
aromasin 12.5 mg ed
dermacrine sustain ed
androgenatore 8 pills ed..
 
makaveli25 said:
i used 500 ius of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - eod for the last 3 weeks of my cycle.. andro generator is kind of like mygonex .. i want to add some clomid but i dont think my body can handle all this different shit.. again here is my PCT - post cycle therapy - .. if you google andro generator youll read quite a few good threads about it

last 3 weeks of cycle 500 iu eod HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin -
aromasin 12.5 mg ed
dermacrine sustain ed
androgenatore 8 pills ed..
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I think you meant 5000iu...the only thing I can think of is the andro. Since I do not know for sure I can only speculate. I know aromasin does not do that so its the andro or dermacrine.
Watch your estrogen, if it's too low you feel like crap.....do you have joint and muscle aches?
 
i used hcg 500 iu eod bro for 3 weeks.. i tapered with test prop at the end of my cycle for four weeks to let the test E clear my system.. the andro generator is a pct product..
 
makaveli25 said:
okay bros heres my dilema i just came off a pretty long cycle of testosterone enanthate at 600mgs a week for about 20 weeks.. it was a pretty good cycle im happy with my results.. i was running equipose along with it but i stopped at around week 12 because my blood pressure was really getting high.. i started PCT - post cycle therapy - a week ago.. ive been having really shitty anxiet and headaches.. i just feel pretty shitty.. im maiting size and strengh though soo im happy about that.. this is what my PCT - post cycle therapy - looks like

aromasin 12.5 mg ed
dermacrine sustain 5 pumps ed
andro g 8 pills ed

i feel like my heart is racing a bit this happend when i was running the equipose.. any suggestions... thanks bros
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ive always used CLOMID AND NOLVA and never a problem.
 
i guess this is a better question can will aromasin and dermacrine sustain make an efficient pct therapy.. keep in mind i hit hcg the last 3 weeks of my cycle.. i really cant stand the sides from clomid..i think i will cut the andro g out right now and run it after my bottle of dermacrine sustain is gone for a bridge.. i know its gonna take some time before my test levels
 
makaveli25 said:
i used HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500 iu eod bro for 3 weeks.. i tapered with test testosterone propionate at the end of my cycle for four weeks to let the testosterone enanthate clear my system.. the andro generator is a PCT - post cycle therapy - product..
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My bad bro, I thought you said you use 500iu for the entire 3 weeks, I missed the EOD in there. I was thinking that you had one of those 5000iu bottles......never mind:)
 
Varga said:
My bad bro, I thought you said you use 500iu for the entire 3 weeks, I missed the EOD in there. I was thinking that you had one of those 5000iu bottles......never mind:)
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haha that prob wouldn;t be enough
 
makaveli25 said:
i guess this is a better question can will aromasin and dermacrine sustain make an efficient PCT - post cycle therapy - therapy.. keep in mind i hit HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - the last 3 weeks of my cycle.. i really cant stand the sides from clomid..i think i will cut the andro g out right now and run it after my bottle of dermacrine sustain is gone for a bridge.. i know its gonna take some time before my test levels
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I don't think so, you need something to stimulate your test production again
You got the estrogen under control but don't think dermacrine is enough to do the job
 
makaveli25 said:
haha that prob wouldn;t be enough
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I know, that's why I went back and looked the 2nd time to make sure:)

I think you need to take clomid or at least nolva bro,

BTW, just came off a 20 weeker myself but I took H C G throughout the cycle, tapered off at the end with prop, and used nolva(20mg ED) and clomid(50mg ED) and never lost my libido. Maybe I'm lucky but I'm 3 weeks on PCT and just about fully recovered.
 
you should be ok and you shoudl make a recover ESPECIALLY SINCE you dropped the EQ early

Ideal PCT:

HCG @ 2000 ius every 3 days with an AI

3 days after last shot of HCG Start Clomid @ 50 mgs every day along side with AI for another 3-4 weeks

Back up PCT if no HCG:

Clomid 50 mgs ED with AI Every day for 4 weeks
 
damn i really dont want to take the clomid but i guess im gonna have to bite the bullet.. is it better to take it at nite to avoid sides.. can i take 25mg ed it brings out the worst in me
 
makaveli25 said:
damn i really dont want to take the clomid but i guess im gonna have to bite the bullet.. is it better to take it at nite to avoid sides.. can i take 25mg ed it brings out the worst in me
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Take it at night before bed,
What sides are you geting?
 
makaveli25 said:
i get terrible anxiety from it.. im an anxious perosn to begin with..i just feel real whiny and bitchy.. it sucks
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Lower the dosage to 25mg ED like you said, and I also take St John Wort which in my case seems to help stabilize my mood. Maybe that will help you too
 
sweet new revised pct

aromasin 12.5 mg ed 1-5
clomid 25-50mg ed 1-5 starting tomorow
dermacrine sustain 1-4 and then regular dermacrine

saving the andro g for bridge along with epistane
 
makaveli25 said:
sweet new revised PCT - post cycle therapy -

aromasin 12.5 mg ed 1-5
clomid 25-50mg ed 1-5 starting tomorow
dermacrine sustain 1-4 and then regular dermacrine

saving the andro g for bridge along with epistane
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Looks solid,
Watch the aromasin, if you start to get joint pain it means that estrogen might be to low, if so take it EOD or E2D
I take mine E2D, when I was taking it ED my joints were freak in killing me
You want to control estrogen not eliminate it:)
 
I wonder how many EF sayings are going to creep out into my real life. I'm just waiting for the day when some chicks are arguing and I'm like show me your tits or stfu lolololol
Or I'll call someone a "Mo" or something hahaha
 
OMEGA said:
loolloloolol creeped into mine :(
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olololol I call people bro a lot now...even broly...when I start calling people orbly's or robly's Imma log off E.F. for a wk or 2 lol!
 
OMEGA said:
you should be ok and you shoudl make a recover ESPECIALLY SINCE you dropped the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - early

Ideal PCT - post cycle therapy - :

HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - @ 2000 ius every 3 days with an aromatase inhibitor

3 days after last shot of HCG Start Clomid @ 50 mgs every day along side with aromatase inhibitor for another 3-4 weeks

Back up PCT if no HCG:

Clomid 50 mgs ED with aromatase inhibitor Every day for 4 weeks
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How long do you take the H.CG?

I think I have seen you say aromasin at 12.5 ed. is that correct?
 
The aromasin should definitely be a good PCT. It helps stimulate test production every bit as well as tamoxifen or clomid.

Anxiety can be strange. Sometimes people will get it when they take a stimulant like ephedra lets say. But then other times a person can be taking ephedra for 10-12 weeks and as soon as they stop taking it, then anxiety symptoms creep in.

It could be a situation where it is starting because you stopped the test injections. The derma could be altering hormone levels that are setting you a little off balance too. It's a tricky thing with a lot of potential triggers. It could be that you are getting some estrogen rebound and it is fucking with your mood and causing anxiety too. It's hard to say what the true cause is.

HCG and aromasin plus dermacrine should be a great PCT.

L-Theanine is the amino acid found in green tea that produces calmness. Definitely worth a try. Also of course is Valerian or Kava Kava but those can also make you drowsy. L-Theanine will make you alert but calm. Great stuff really. 200mg should do the trick. If that isn't enough then thinking about St Johns Wort or 5-HTP before bed is an option as well.
 
st8grad said:
The aromasin should definitely be a good PCT - post cycle therapy - . It helps stimulate test production every bit as well as tamoxifen or clomid.

Anxiety can be strange. Sometimes people will get it when they take a stimulant like ephedra lets say. But then other times a person can be taking ephedra for 10-12 weeks and as soon as they stop taking it, then anxiety symptoms creep in.

It could be a situation where it is starting because you stopped the test injections. The derma could be altering hormone levels that are setting you a little off balance too. It's a tricky thing with a lot of potential triggers. It could be that you are getting some estrogen rebound and it is fucking with your mood and causing anxiety too. It's hard to say what the true cause is.

HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and aromasin plus dermacrine should be a great PCT.

L-Theanine is the amino acid found in green tea that produces calmness. Definitely worth a try. Also of course is Valerian or Kava Kava but those can also make you drowsy. L-Theanine will make you alert but calm. Great stuff really. 200mg should do the trick. If that isn't enough then thinking about St Johns Wort or 5-HTP before bed is an option as well.
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excellent thanks for the advice bro... i hate having anxeity.. i think it mite have something to do with the busts it really upset me bad to see all this happen.. it may also be my hormones changing a bit.. im very happy i haven;t lost and strenght or size though.. that is a definite plus..
 
mobro said:
How long do you take the H.CG?

I think I have seen you say aromasin at 12.5 ed. is that correct?
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hi:)

3-4 shots total along side AI

each shot should be 1500-2000 iu every 3-4 days so you basically run it for 9-12 days
 
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