Need opinions on this cycle..and HCG help

[skinny1]

Heres my next cycle..remember im only 153 lbs.at 5'8..34yrs old..so im not looking to do olympic proportions..Im looking for 10-15lbs?

Week 1-8 500mg Galenika Test enan.

Week 1-5 300mg Norma Decca

Week 5-10 300mg Schering Primobolan Depot

In going to use 10mg of nolva each day..a week into the cycle -thru cycle. Start clomid on week 10.(300mg day1, 100mg ed 5days, 50mg ed for2wks)

Id like to add HCG on this cycle..could you tell me where to add this in in the cycle..and what amount?

I picked the decca and the primo because of low/none liver toxicty..the test is a enough (ive had kidney/liver damage few years ago) So please..dont try to add or change drugs in this cycle I couldnt locate any masteron injectable..so id figured these AAS in those amounts would be plenty..I could probably get 15lbs..off the test alone..but the others have better ability to keep gains.. tell me what you think..

 

[jc21]

well that deca is just a waste....it takes deca 4 weeks to kick in...so it will be done by the time it kicks in. drop that primo and run the deca to week 8, better off would be week 10. hcg should not be needed in that cycle.

 

[wartime100]

Why run the deca for only five weeks. I would run it for 8 weeks at 400mg/week.

 

[SUST-MAN]

Deca & Primo together? Why?

 

[skinny1]

deca and primo why? Because if you read my post..IVE HAD LIVER DAMAGE..whats steroids are easy on the liver..DECCA AND PRIMO...lol..Nobody understands...everybody thinks like a 250 lb gorilla..with a liver that can withstand 5 types of orals...WELL SORRY..i cant.. Actually..i got the damage from being trained by personel trainers from Germany..these 250 lb gorillas worked me out so hard in 2 days...by day 4 i was pissing blood...blood that looked like diahreah...within the week i was hospitalized..with a condition called "rahbdomyoslis" Some people who go through army boot camp..get this. My muscles were worked to the point of damage...they started breaking down in my body..filtering thru my kidneys. A normal persons cpk level is 190...mine was 33,000..
my kidneys almost shut down..but it caused some damage to my kidneys/liver. I then weighed 130lbs!! SOOOO...i keep an eye on the levels..and the only harsh drug i want to do is the testosterone...BUT..i wanted to stack some less toxic drugs around it..to better help keep my gains..I know im limited....but i couldnt find any masteron..or i would have skip the deca all together. I really wanted to pile on..primo..masteron with the test. But im trying to figure out something else..since no masteron..i cant use orals..and im afraid of proestrogenic induced gyno from the decca..SO WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO??? (sorry..but this is getting very frustrating)

 

[skinny1]

bump

 

[skinny1]

funny,,,no ones got anything to say now,...

 

[skinny1]

reply to sust man

Here is an exerpt from a steroid profile page that one of the moderators on this sight ..links to..maybe this will answer your question. Its under the PRIMOBOLAN DEPOT profile :

" Those who have more patience or are afraid of potential side effects will usually be very satisfied with a stack of Primobolan-Depot 200 mg/week and Deca-Durabolin 200-400 mg/week. "

Side effects with Primobolan Depot are minimal and manifest themselves only rarely and in persons who are extremely sensitive. Primobolan Depot has even less in fluence on the liver function than the oral form so that an increase of the liver's toxin values is extremely unlikely. The blood pressure, cholesterol level, HDL and LDL values usually remain unaffected. Primobolan Depot is generally the safest injectable steroid. Athletes whose liver values strongly increase when taking anabolic steroids but who still do not want to give up their use, under periodical supervision of these values, can go ahead and try a stack of Primobolan Depot, Deca-Durabolin, and Andriol. A well-known bodybuilder in Germany who had already won several national titles has admitted that his liver was damaged by his too frequent use of the 17-alpha alkylated steroids Dianabol, Anadrol 50 (at the time still Plenastril), and Oxandrolone. He was,however, able to bring his body back to national championship level by taking 200 mg Primobolan-Depot/week, 400 mg Deca- Durabolin/week, and 240 mg Andriol/day, without a negative effect on the liver values. Primobolan Depot, like the tablets, has only a very small influence on the hypothalamuhypophysiat testicular axis so that the body's own testosterone production is only reduced when very high dosages are taken over a prolonged period of time

 

[krafta]

i think you cycles looks like a good lowandogenic cycle for your weight!
run the deca at 200mg for week 1-8 instead, since it takes 3-4 weeks for the the deca to kick in, like jc21 said!

and to finish off with primo like you do is a good way to keep your gains and then hit the clomid afterwards (week 11)

good luck!

 

[bigdelt69]

i am not going to take the time to read all the stupid fucking bull shit that you wrote, but all i can say is damn get a fuckin clue.

one of my best friends had a kidney transplant several years ago, the things he goes through every day are terrible. he cant work out because the meds he is on lowers fucks with his ammune system. he cant work, and cant live a normal life.

i think its time to stop for you bud, please.

 

[SUST-MAN]

Yeah....stop taking juice...

Its not worth it for you.

 

[OAKBOX]

If your dead set on doing a cycle, all i can say is that... i knew a guy that did a deca/primo stack similar to yours (although he ran it for a much longer period of time) and he looked like a fucking GOD! At your weight and height you should be able to pack on the lbs... that is, if you don't kick the bucket while on! LOL

 

[skinny1]

While i see eveybodys point...i want people to know i not going into this blindly. On my last cycle...i went to a doctor and had my kidneys checked ...my cpk level. I was 5 weeks into it. 500mg a week test. My cpk level was at 194....Doctor said it was so slightly elevated..nothing to worry about. So that being said...i wanted to another cycle..but stack some less harsher drugs on top of it?? I decided to get more decca...run it longer. There really was no telling to what extent if any ..was done to those organs. But i gave them 2 years to heal...and i couldnt lift for 6 months after it happened. I went from not being able to do one push up for 6 months...(after the rahbdo) To now beching 4 sets of 225... and no sign of illness. Shit..after my last cycle..I havent even got a cold or taken an antibiotic..since the begining of the year. The emphasis here though...is to have a less toxic cycle..

 

[bigdelt69]

why not just do some research, come up with a good diet and training program, and stick to that.

if you dont have your health you dont have anything.

why risk your health?
why risk your health?
why risk your health?

 

[M1KAI]

Bro,
Ok listen to me do the test for 8 weeks at 500mg (i would do 250mg myself)

Drop your deca down to 200mg a week and run it for as long as you can. I dunno about the guy who thinks that deca only works after 4 weeks when its half life is about 15 to 20 days max. (Research)

As for your clen start it 10 days after your first jab do 4 pills on the first day 3 hours apart. then drop down to 2 a day for 4 days then 1 a day for 4 days.

As for your novladex i dont think you need that much but it will stop bloating so you may not appear to gain as much as u want also 15 to 10 lbs is unrealistic. your going to gain a maxx of about 3 to 5 lbs of lean mass if your lucky the rest is fat and water.

Also make sure your diet is tight and sleep as much as you can at least 12 hours a day if you can. the best is a mid day nap if you are lucky enough to be able to have one.

i would not bother with the primo yet its not really needed but you could include it at the back to harden you up.

Dont worry about a taper its not needed on that amount of gear, and as long as you do your clomid ok you wont lose anything.

as far as your HCG is concerned forget it your clomid will do fine you only really need to use hcg if you have been on alot of test i.e. > 750mg's a week.

I think you will be ok with the following..!

==========Test=======Deca=======Clomid
Week1--------250mg----------200mg----------0mg
Week2--------250mg----------200mg----------0mg
Week3--------250mg----------200mg----------0mg
Week4--------250mg----------200mg----------0mg
Week5--------250mg----------200mg----------0mg
Week6--------250mg----------200mg----------0mg
Week7--------250mg----------200mg----------0mg
Week8--------250mg----------200mg----------0mg
Week9--------000mg----------000mg----------0mg
Week10-------000mg----------000mg----------100mg day for 4 days then drop to 50mg a day for 4 days dontforget day one one every 4 hours.

Up the test to 500mg if you want but its up to you.

 

[bigdelt69]

ok, very little of the this guy just said is true.

when did he mention clen?

since when did bloating become so desirable?

never used deca have you?

 

[skinny1]

jeesh..what a project huh? Okay..im going for 500mg test-8 weeks, 300mg deca -7 weeks, On week 8...im starting primobolan..200mg -5 weeks. Week 10 starts clomid for 3 weeks. I will use nolva around week 2 or depending when nips get itchy. I guess in skipping the HCG...enough people told me i dont need it.
Ive been told by one guy to do GH..126iu till its gone at the end of cycle. his says thats will help keep muscles from wasting..but i dont have an extra 500 bucks ...lol So...im going for it. As far as going natural? cmon...im almost 35...i eat 4,00o calories a day..high protein...the more i eat...the more i burn. My metabolism at my age is still way to fast. I look about 24..and have less than 8% body fat.. So ive already reached my potential at this age...im hoping the AAS will bring me closer to a healthier looking weight.... Thats why they call me the skinny one...lol

 

[bigdelt69]

Ok if you are dead set on doing a cycle, you might as well do it right.

your results would be better if the test was run for 10 weeks, i hesitate to suggest it because i dont think you need to be cycling any way. You also need to run the deca for 10 weeks. Just do the deca and test, no need for primo. As far as your diet goes, consume lots of red meat, sounds like you are an ectomorph. You need to eat all you can eat. Be sloppy with you diet, if you want to gain weight sometimes you have to eat in volume.

 

[skinny1]

big delt...I was begining to hate you in the post where you stated..."your not reading all the bullshit".....lol...but im glad you came around...I think i will take your advice...and go 10 weeks....but..im going use the primo...near the end. It cant hurt? right? Im not looking to get huge...wish i could...but not genitically made that way...Im just trying to get to a decent weight...I dont think im going to be doing many more cycles in the future, i love working out...its all i do...and its nice to have a little boost everyonce and awhile.