Need opinions on diet....

[Pineapple Devil]

I'm currently on 100mg ed tren and 100mg eod prop. Here is my current diet. just doing a little fine tuning.

6:00am
6 egg white omlets- 0 carbs/18g protein
1 slice of low fat chopped ham- 0 carbs/5g protein
1 slice of ff cheese- 0 carbs/?g protein

Optimum Nutrition Shake
1 scoop- 2 carbs/22g protein
8oz skim milk- 13 carbs/8g protein

8:00am
1 can of chicken noodle soup- 20 carbs/7g protein

10:00am
1 can of tuna- 0 carbs/32g protein

12:00am
1 chicken breast- 0 carbs/34g protein
1 cup of green beans- 0 carbs/?g protein

2:00pm
EAS AdvantEdge Bar- 2.5 carbs/24g protein

3:15pm
1 Cup of maple syrup and plain oatmeal- 52 carbs/7g protein

5-7
Workout

7:15pm
1 chicken breast- 0 carbs/34g protein
1 cup of green beans- 0 carbs/?g protein

8:00pm
Optimum Nutrition Shake
2 carbs/22g protein
8oz skim milk- 13 carbs/8g protein

9:00pm
1 cup of ff cottage cheese- 6 carbs/12g protein

224g of protein
110.5g of carbs

what do you think? comments more than welcome.

 

[rohadawg]

i think you're a little heavy if you're looking for that summer shredding.

 

[Pineapple Devil]

i think you're a little heavy if you're looking for that summer shredding.

care to elaborate?

 

[DROCK]

not heavy at all bro..in fact thats a pretty good diet...but you do need to fluctuate your carbs up and down daily in order to keep your metabolism stimulated...if you are pretty lean I would eat more carbs, complex of course, I think you will find your physique to be much fuller this way..also once or twice a week go out and have a nice big dinner somewhere...

 

[SUST-MAN]

looks good bro..

But how much do you weigh? how tall are you? Whats your BF%?

Also:

1 cup of green beans- 0 carbs/?g protein

Greenbeans have carbs....

 

[Pineapple Devil]

looks good bro..

But how much do you weigh? how tall are you? Whats your BF%?

Also:

1 cup of green beans- 0 carbs/?g protein

Greenbeans have carbs....

right now I'm 5'7" 165 and I dont know my bf%. I'd say around 9-10%. Are you sure they have carbs? I could have sworn when I picked up the can they didnt. I'll find out today. I've got to go shopping.

 

[serge]

I'm currently on 100mg ed tren and 100mg eod prop. Here is my current diet. just doing a little fine tuning.

6:00am
6 egg white omlets- 0 carbs/18g protein
1 slice of low fat chopped ham- 0 carbs/5g protein
1 slice of ff cheese- 0 carbs/?g protein

Optimum Nutrition Shake
1 scoop- 2 carbs/22g protein
8oz skim milk- 13 carbs/8g protein

8:00am
1 can of chicken noodle soup- 20 carbs/7g protein

10:00am
1 can of tuna- 0 carbs/32g protein

12:00am
1 chicken breast- 0 carbs/34g protein
1 cup of green beans- 0 carbs/?g protein

2:00pm
EAS AdvantEdge Bar- 2.5 carbs/24g protein

3:15pm
1 Cup of maple syrup and plain oatmeal- 52 carbs/7g protein

5-7
Workout

7:15pm
1 chicken breast- 0 carbs/34g protein
1 cup of green beans- 0 carbs/?g protein

8:00pm
Optimum Nutrition Shake
2 carbs/22g protein
8oz skim milk- 13 carbs/8g protein

9:00pm
1 cup of ff cottage cheese- 6 carbs/12g protein

224g of protein
110.5g of carbs

what do you think? comments more than welcome.

what are your stats? what are your GOALS?

 

[Pineapple Devil]

not heavy at all bro..in fact thats a pretty good diet...but you do need to fluctuate your carbs up and down daily in order to keep your metabolism stimulated...if you are pretty lean I would eat more carbs, complex of course, I think you will find your physique to be much fuller this way..also once or twice a week go out and have a nice big dinner somewhere...

would you change the chicken noodle soup and oatmeal around? put the oatmeal in the morning instead of before the workout?

 

[serge]

right now I'm 5'7" 165 and I dont know my bf%. I'd say around 9-10%. Are you sure they have carbs? I could have sworn when I picked up the can they didnt. I'll find out today. I've got to go shopping.

keep your total caloric intake down to between 10-12cals/lb/bodyweight

60%p
30%c
10%f

no carbs past 6pm

add cardio and your bf will drop

 

[hypershriek]

As serge said diet reflect what your goals are, are you wanting to compete, do you wanna ger huge??

 

[Pineapple Devil]

keep your total caloric intake down to between 10-12cals/lb/bodyweight

60%p
30%c
10%f

no carbs past 6pm

add cardio and your bf will drop

sounds good. looks like i've got that almost down completly

 

[Pineapple Devil]

As serge said diet reflect what your goals are, are you wanting to compete, do you wanna ger huge??

not really compete yet, just make sure I've got my diet in check for down the road when I have to drop the bf I know exactly how to do it. just leaning out right now. the fina and test is helping in the muscle dept too.

 

[DROCK]

your last statment being the case it's only gonna help you to have a higher amount of carbs..complex as I said before..as long as your not going overboard say 500 grams you will be fine, feel better, stronger, more energy for workouts, and more fuel for your chemicals..lower carbs are for droping fat but is not the best senerio for growing and being healthy
peace

 

[rippedchef]

Am I missing something?Why the tren and test if your trying to tweak a cutting diet?Without an abundance of carbs why use the gear-I was under the impression that this was exactly what you did NOT want to do-trying to cut and grow at the same time?But if its working I'd sure have to give it a shot- staying lean and growing is definitely my goal!!

 

[serge]

Am I missing something?Why the tren and test if your trying to tweak a cutting diet?Without an abundance of carbs why use the gear-I was under the impression that this was exactly what you did NOT want to do-trying to cut and grow at the same time?But if its working I'd sure have to give it a shot- staying lean and growing is definitely my goal!!

yes you did miss something...............ALOT actuall

cut and grow at the same time??? you dont know much about how the body works do you? TCA or Citric Acid cycle? you know........its caloric deficit to loose weight, caloric surplus to gain weight............NOW IF YOU SOMEHOW FOUND A WAY TO ACHEAVE CALORIC DEFICIT WHILE SIMULTENEOUSLY ACHEAVING CALORIC SURPLUS which would in term allow gaining muscle while loosing body-fat at the same time PLEASE DO educate US

untill you do however, i will overfeed to grow, and keep my cals/carbs low to loose the fat

 

[Bulldog_10]

I think everything looks good, except your pre- and post-workout meals. Post workout, you should drink a protein shake so it gets absorbed faster...And you should also throw in some simple carbs, I'd buy some maltodextrin (for the insulin spike) to throw into your protein shakes for a good post-workout meal.

Pre-workout, you're eating too many carbs and not enough protein IMO. I would go for 30g carbs (mostly complex) and 30g protein, with maybe 1 or 2 grams of fats.

I think the perfect pre-workout meal is a chicken breast with either rice or pasta, eaten about 1-1.5 hours before the workout.

other than that, I think it looks good.

 

[Pineapple Devil]

and the green beens do have carbs. 5g per 1/2 cup

 

[Pineapple Devil]

Pre-workout, you're eating too many carbs and not enough protein IMO. I would go for 30g carbs (mostly complex) and 30g protein, with maybe 1 or 2 grams of fats.

I think the perfect pre-workout meal is a chicken breast with either rice or pasta, eaten about 1-1.5 hours before the workout.

ok, i'm going to take the shake as soon as i get done working out instead of eating right off. give me some more ideas of a pre-workout meal. I'm trying to keep the carbs down during the day, so if you see something that could be changed, feel free.

 

[Pineapple Devil]

does it sound good to exchange the 8 am and the 3:15 meals and take the shake off the morning and put it in with the 3:15 meal for approx 33 carbs and 37g of protein? that will give me less carbs and more protein pre-workout.

 

[Beezers]

Serge...In my lab right now I'm working on bending that simultaneous caloric deficit/caloric surplus rule of physiology. The laws of mathematics and physiology are making it very hard to figure out how to do it at the same time Perhaps in a converse dimension of the universe it can be accomplished, but it's eluding me.

 

[Bulldog_10]

does it sound good to exchange the 8 am and the 3:15 meals and take the shake off the morning and put it in with the 3:15 meal for approx 33 carbs and 37g of protein? that will give me less carbs and more protein pre-workout.

you could do that. Just check the sodiom content of the chicken soup. It's probably high in sodium, so make sure you're not dehydrated during your workouts...Dehydrated muscles can't work at their full potential.

 

[Pineapple Devil]

you could do that. Just check the sodiom content of the chicken soup. It's probably high in sodium, so make sure you're not dehydrated during your workouts...Dehydrated muscles can't work at their full potential.

it is high in sodium. i'll stay hydrated though.

 

[Bulldog_10]

"Water is lost so fast during exercise that it becomes difficult, if not impossible, to replace the amount of water being lost and virtually impossible to increase body water while exercising."

It is already hard enough to stay fully hydrated during a workout...I would stand clear of all high sodium foods prior to workout.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Oops...that last quote was from Nutrition for Serious Athletes by Dan Benardot, PhD, RD

 

[Pineapple Devil]

what could i eat? i'll need something to kind of fill me up. 1 pb wheat sandwich would give me about 28 carbs and the shake on top of that but it wouldnt really fill me up. i dont really have time too cook rice or anything so its got to be quick. whats the nutritional facts on green apples and bananas?

 

[Bulldog_10]

Fruits are too high in sugars. You should try to eat real food as much as possible. But, if you can't...a *quality* protein bar can be substituted. Most of them have that same ratio of protein:carbs (30:30).

As far as having your pre-workout meal fill you up...it shouldn't.

Here is a quote from I website I got a lot of good info from a while back...I don't remember the address, but I have a bunch of stuff printed out from it:

"The perfect pre-workout combination is to eat equal amounts of protein and carbs, because your pre-workout meal needs to be moderate-calorie, highly digestible and without an extreme amount of carbs since you don't want a rapid rise in insulin.

Also something very important the 300cal with that ratio (1:1 between carbs and protein) remain the same...(you don't want to go to train with a bloated stomache of course)

Also, if you are at work and you cannot eat normal food, it's totally ok if you replace it with a good protein bar, that provides almost the same ratio between carbs and protein (1:1). Another good option might be to make your own chicken, turkey, or tuna sandwiches. Just remember to stay around the same numbers..."

 

[Bulldog_10]

Oh yeah...this is what it says about post-workout:

"At that time your first post-workout meal must be a supplement so that it can get into your system rapidly and start the process of glycogen storage and recovery."

 

[Pineapple Devil]

so would you say either 1 pb wheat or tuna wheat sandwich would work good? then a shake to go with that. 24 carbs in the bread, 7g fat in the pb, 13 carbs in the milk, 30g protein in the shake/milk.

 

[Bulldog_10]

so would you say either 1 pb wheat or tuna wheat sandwich would work good? then a shake to go with that. 24 carbs in the bread, 7g fat in the pb, 13 carbs in the milk, 30g protein in the shake/milk.

I'd go with the tuna instead of the pb. Those 7g of fat will make the whole meal stay in your stmoache longer. A tuna sandwich sounds like it would be good alone...with a big glass of water.

 

[rippedchef]

hey Serge-my reply was "tongue in cheek"- I assumed pineapple had mis-typed-I'll keep the sarcasm to myself in the future!