need input on deca cycle!

[mr-D]

Hi bros...

my stats...
22 y.o.
BF% = low < 10%
weight 160
height 5'10

been lifting for some years, but not always with most effort..
Diet is pretty clean
this will be my first cycle
i have chosen deca because its rather mild and with not too bad sides..
Planned start is january 2006!

week 1-15 200mgx2 EW (monday-thursday)

PCT: clomid for 4 weeks, 3 weeks after last pin.. + HCG
have nolva on hand..

since this is my first cycle, i've though about starting with 200mg EW for some weeks first then going up to 400mg EW for the rest of the cycle.
or even running just 200mg EW for the duration of the cycle..
I'd like some comments on this!

how long can a deca cycle be in my case?

thansk in advance..

 

[bbkingpin]

If it's your first cycle, you can start with 200 mg or even 100 mg per week. Then peak at 400 mg and taper down to 200 mg per week. Everyone is going to tell you to add d-bol and/or test. But, as you said, you decided on deca for it's safety and benefits (vs. side-effects). Don't let anyone dissuade you from your decision. To answer your question again, if its your first cycle, 200 mg/week is plenty to start with. 400mg/week is too high to start, especially with your age and height and weight and the fact this is your first cycle. Deca is my favorite substance because of the benefit/side-effects ratio -- especially because it doesn't make you lose your hair.

 

[satchboogie]

at 5'10, 160 pounds, you can still gain at least another 20 pounds naturally!
you really dont need the juice right now.

and if you claim to have been working out for years, then something is wrong.
at 5'10, 160 pounds, you either are a hardgainer, or arent working out right/eating for gains.

 

[growthspurt]

Hi bros...

my stats...
22 y.o.
BF% = low < 10%
weight 160
height 5'10

been lifting for some years, but not always with most effort..
Diet is pretty clean
this will be my first cycle

i have chosen deca because its rather mild and with not too bad sides..

Planned start is january 2006!

week 1-15 200mgx2 EW (monday-thursday)

PCT: clomid for 4 weeks, 3 weeks after last pin.. + HCG
have nolva on hand..

since this is my first cycle, i've though about starting with 200mg EW for some weeks first then going up to 400mg EW for the rest of the cycle.
or even running just 200mg EW for the duration of the cycle..
I'd like some comments on this!

how long can a deca cycle be in my case?

thansk in advance..

You might be suprised with the sides that Deca can possibly bring on!

 

[crunkjuice]

if your deadset on starting in january, my advice is eat 8 or 9 times a day and lift real hard until then! Dont do any cardio because you are already plenty lean... put on some natural weight before you hit the gas. I agree with BBkingpin I think you can grow off 200mg a week and thats a good way to avoid sides as much as possible. also keep in mind that with such a long esther it may take a few weeks to really kick in so dont jack up your dosage on week 2 because your not feeling it! Best of luck bro

 

[muscleup]

Deca to me has the worst side effects......I hate the shit.

As Satch mentioned you can easily gain another 20lbs through diet and training.

 

[mr-D]

If it's your first cycle, you can start with 200 mg or even 100 mg per week. Then peak at 400 mg and taper down to 200 mg per week. Everyone is going to tell you to add d-bol and/or test. But, as you said, you decided on deca for it's safety and benefits (vs. side-effects). Don't let anyone dissuade you from your decision. To answer your question again, if its your first cycle, 200 mg/week is plenty to start with. 400mg/week is too high to start, especially with your age and height and weight and the fact this is your first cycle. Deca is my favorite substance because of the benefit/side-effects ratio -- especially because it doesn't make you lose your hair.

Thanks.. think i'll stick to 200mg EW then..
On my next cycle perhaps i'll add some kind of test..

at 5'10, 160 pounds, you can still gain at least another 20 pounds naturally!
you really dont need the juice right now.

and if you claim to have been working out for years, then something is wrong.
at 5'10, 160 pounds, you either are a hardgainer, or arent working out right/eating for gains.

Yes, you are absolutely right!
I have not had a clean diet, but i'm getting there now.
I obviously don't have too much of the genetics with me..
but i am definatly not at my natural max.
I am close to 170 now, but can only hope for 180 by january..
I'm seeing a nice progress in the weight the last month, hope to continue that way.
Just started a new 3-split program..

You might be suprised with the sides that Deca can possibly bring on!

Yes im aware of deca dick..
I'm being cautionous tho

if your deadset on starting in january, my advice is eat 8 or 9 times a day and lift real hard until then! Dont do any cardio because you are already plenty lean... put on some natural weight before you hit the gas. I agree with BBkingpin I think you can grow off 200mg a week and thats a good way to avoid sides as much as possible. also keep in mind that with such a long esther it may take a few weeks to really kick in so dont jack up your dosage on week 2 because your not feeling it! Best of luck bro

i've scheduled for jan06.. like to have the cycle planned well.
I'm focusing on diet now, and working out hard and getting the techniques 100%
thanks

Deca to me has the worst side effects......I hate the shit.

As Satch mentioned you can easily gain another 20lbs through diet and training.

Hope i don't get hit so bad with sides..
and i will put on some more weight before i turn to the dark side...



i'm still curious about the lenght of my cycle tho.
Is it "safe" to go for more than 16 weeks?

right now it seems i'll be doing 200mg EW for 16 weeks....

would it be benefictial to run the cycle for as much as 20 weeks? 30weeks?

 

[Dial_tone]

I think the sides with test are more predictable and controllable.

 

[fireflyer]

EQ has less sides then Deca. I wouldn't start with either though. Why not just try some Dbol for a 2 week cycle and see how you react to that. You didn't mention what you'd do for PCT and 30 weeks for a first cycle is insane. Read up a little more on this AS cause it does have some potentially bad sides (besides Deca dick). That said - I love the stuff with test and Winny.

 

[mr-D]

for a 16 week cycle,
pct would be:
HCG, starting soon after last last deca pin
3000 IU / 3000IU / 1500IU / 1500 IU with 5-6 days between
nolva 20mg ED after 2nd HCG injection for 30 days
week 19-23: clomid 100/50/50/50

sound ok?