Need Help

[stevesmi]

dont remember the exact place i found the pct, but seen it many Places that it is better to run HCG during and not with pct.
is the setup that bad ?

i never said to run hcg in pct. i said to run it as a kickstart to pct!! there is a big difference.

that entire setup is just internet parrotted crap. deca and sustanon are long estered compounds so 10 weeks on both is a waste, i addressed this in your other thread you posted. nolva and clomid 2 SERM's together for pct is awful and you will feel like shit on that.

but i'm not gonna argue with you bro.. do what you like.

wolfgang's setup is far superior but you still need to do a lot more research. you said you ran 2 prior cycles, how did you recover? what were your bloods like? i would be curious to see your blood results to make sure your HPTA is healthy

 

[RoarBB]

i didnt say u said that. i just said that from what ive read HCG is better during cycle.
what confuses me is the pct, i see ur point, but thats also why im asking for opinions in here.
there is SO many different opinions on a PCT, reason for nolva and clomid is from William Llewellyns book "Anabolics"
and none of the people i know have used deca for more than 10weeks.

But if you want to help me out with the changes i would be grateful for tour help.

About the blood you talk about, i dont even know what it is??

and last cycles i just kickstarted my PCT with 10k iu hcg over 20 days and nolva for 4 weeks. but didnt do alot for me tbh. that was after a Test - Tren - Masteron - Wins cycle. 12 weeks