*need help with PCT, please assist

[FORTUNE]

finished m1t oral test cycle at 15mg a day for 20 days , finished it about 19 days ago

i have been on clomid for 10 days, i missed one day tho (how bad is this?) and was taking novadex XT (gaspari) before i started the clomid....i had an unfortunate lack of clomid for the first 11 or 12 days directly post cycle, so its not been perfect....doin 50mg a day, when can i come off...should i stop now? also, are there any concerns with coming off,, should i take anything else? how about tribulus (natural test booster)

been about 11 days on the novadex then switched and 10 days (missed 1) on the clomid....lemme know if i can quit it...or hopefully soon....anything to worry about when i come off.

thanks so much for all ur help.

 

[auto14972]

finished m1t oral test cycle at 15mg a day for 20 days , finished it about 19 days ago

i have been on clomid for 10 days, i missed one day tho (how bad is this?) and was taking novadex XT (gaspari) before i started the clomid....i had an unfortunate lack of clomid for the first 11 or 12 days directly post cycle, so its not been perfect....doin 50mg a day, when can i come off...should i stop now? also, are there any concerns with coming off,, should i take anything else? how about tribulus (natural test booster)

been about 11 days on the novadex then switched and 10 days (missed 1) on the clomid....lemme know if i can quit it...or hopefully soon....anything to worry about when i come off.

thanks so much for all ur help.

This cycle seems horrible on all accounts IMO. First off oral only cycles really are not a great idea. Second if you were going to run an oral only cycle PCT would start immediatly after your last dosage.

Novadex XT isn't really a great choice for PCT. I mean your cycle and PCT are pretty much screwed up and you should have researched way before even starting the cycle.

It's really to late to get any new products for PCT so your pretty much stuck with what you got. I'd run the clomid for 3-4 weeks total.

 

[MidWestTakeOver]

Use some demacrine it really works check the threads around here

 

[deadliftinghorse]

where can you get demacraine

 

[MidWestTakeOver]

http://www.primordialperformance.com/

 

[FORTUNE]

auto14972.....you are completly correct in your flaming of me....i have been discussing the cycle before it even started with macro...i had great gains to be honest, but orals only are harsh on the liver and endocrine system, my clomid was seized at the border due to no prescription on what would be day1 of PCT (laughable timing,FUCK) , and this fucked everything up

thankfully i had novadex XT, i know this is not even an acceptable substitute but the anti-estrogen has got to be doing something. obviously this was not perfect....but from this point on, what can i do.... macrophage69alpha please assist me or others with knowledge....i know he said that clomid was ideal for coming off m1t's...and unfortunatly i didnt get it in time ......on day 10 of clomid....after 11 days of novadex XT....HOW LONG DO I GO ON THE CLOMID AT 50MG....with this weird PCT "delay"

 

[NickyE3]

macro is gone

how are you feeling physically and how are your nuts doing?

 

[KD1]

Go get some test, run that for 12 weeks, maybe throw in a dbol kicker, and then do a correct PCT with HCG, clomid and AIFM ( or some other anti-e ).

You might as well, your body is shut down and you half ass PCT isnt going to get you back to normal.

 

[jamesG]

just run the clomid for a couple 3-4 more days. that was a short cycle and low dose, even though I would never reccomend M1T. Shit is toxic.

 

[auto14972]

auto14972.....you are completly correct in your flaming of me....i have been discussing the cycle before it even started with macro...i had great gains to be honest, but orals only are harsh on the liver and endocrine system, my clomid was seized at the border due to no prescription on what would be day1 of PCT (laughable timing,FUCK) , and this fucked everything up

thankfully i had novadex XT, i know this is not even an acceptable substitute but the anti-estrogen has got to be doing something. obviously this was not perfect....but from this point on, what can i do.... macrophage69alpha please assist me or others with knowledge....i know he said that clomid was ideal for coming off m1t's...and unfortunatly i didnt get it in time ......on day 10 of clomid....after 11 days of novadex XT....HOW LONG DO I GO ON THE CLOMID AT 50MG....with this weird PCT "delay"

This is the main reason why you should always have your PCT products before you start your cycle. Of course it's too late now but we all make mistakes and we live and learn.

My suggestion:
Run the clomid for a total of 3-4 weeks
Go to your doctor and get everything checked out
When you get your test results back then you can make an informed decision on what to do next (hopefully since it was a short cycle and you did use the clomid everything comes back fine)

 

[BigRupe]

macro is gone

Sorry to hijack, but what do you mean Macro is gone??

 

[rakasha681]

Sorry to hijack, but what do you mean Macro is gone??

they were dropped as a board sponsor, so they are no longer here.

 

[FORTUNE]

man macro was the shit always hit me up with instant scientific awnsers...who will replace...thats ridiculous.... george spellwin if u exist step it up buddy.... thanks for all the awnsers... i realistically wont be injecting test right now, although i do want to. and yes this just proves to have the shit literally on hand..... as to how i feel, i dont feel especially terrible, although the first week -10 days i had a very awkward feeling in my right nut,, made me squirm sometimes (eeew) this has pretty much gone entirely, nuts are back to a normal size i think, or close, but i dont want to fuck my girl as much as usual....once a day for sure no probs....2 day recently , but usually way more....this is weird....i will keep running the clomid....im not getting any weird visuals or really emotional on the clomid tho, which is good. i heard coming off clomid can be fucking weird....thanks for the tips ill keep takin the clomid for sure

 

[FORTUNE]

hypothetical question also....what if someone doesnt use clomid/PCT AT ALL.....in time will their natural test production/balls return exactly to normal....obviously gonna take a much longer time....my buddy and im sure 100's of others have no idea about PCT and are popping m1t's like candy....at least i did some research, fucking prescription seizure was brutal tho

 

[Dr. JK]

they were dropped as a board sponsor, so they are no longer here.

Seriously, Macro is not here anymore?? WTF is going on here with all the good guys dropping out??

 

[rakasha681]

hypothetical question also....what if someone doesnt use clomid/PCT AT ALL.....in time will their natural test production/balls return exactly to normal....obviously gonna take a much longer time....my buddy and im sure 100's of others have no idea about PCT and are popping m1t's like candy....at least i did some research, fucking prescription seizure was brutal tho

Yes, in most cases your natural test production will normalize, but it will take much longer, and you will lose everything you gained from the cycle