Need Help With My Bud's 2nd Cycle....

[rnch]

his needs are different than mine, what has worked for me will not for him.

he's 26, 5-9, 150 pounds, 8% body fat, has some lean muscle mass on him, been lifting for about 3 years.

his first cycle was sust only, no clomid or nolva, developed gyno, had it cut out last fall, recovered fully form the surgery and is lifting again on a regular basis.

he is concerned, and rightly so, about getting gyno again, but wants to juice at least one more time. the boy has great genics, looks like a pre-lifting SAF.

what do you guys recommend he does for a 10 week cycle?

 

[rnch]

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[Maxx Out]

I say Eq, which is very safe and will give some nice size. If he wants a bit more size then throw in some d-bol(fast acting so easy to control) with arimidex to control the gyno symptoms.

 

[Hauge]

I would say do 500mg sust per week and 400mg EQ per week. I would also throw in some arimidex or even femera to reduce or eliminate gyno symptoms. Also make sure he takes clomid 3 weeks after his last shot. Just my .02$

 

[nautica]

I was under the assumption that the gland could be cut out and one would not have to worry about gyno coming back. Did his doc not do this???

Nautica

 

[Maxx Out]

I was under the assumption that the gland could be cut out and one would not have to worry about gyno coming back. Did his doc not do this???

Nautica

They usually never cut out the gland.

 

[Hauge]

There is always a chance that the doctor missed a very little piece in your chest. Doctors cant get it out everytime, they do sometimes miss the slightest piece here and there. Just hope that you are the one that gets it all out. I have read and heard of this happening to a few people who have gotten the surgery done and thinking they are good to go and do another cycle and get it right back cause t is still in there and once agitated again it grows.

 

[spotlift]

Each body reacts differently, how much sus250 was he taking a week? How much gain and keep? Does he want to harder and cut? A little more information and we might be good to go.. .for a little infomration.

 

[argent]

They usually never cut out the gland.

Why not?

 

[Maxx Out]

Why not?

Cause it's not medicaly necessary. They just take out whatever fat and hard tissue there is, but some docs will do the gland if u convince them.

 

[rnch]

Each body reacts differently, how much sus250 was he taking a week? How much gain and keep? Does he want to harder and cut? A little more information and we might be good to go.. .for a little infomration.

.he would like to add 10 pounds of lean muscle mass while avoiding gyno again, at all costs!

 

[jc21]

how bout eq and anavar.

week 1-10 400-500mg/wk eq
week 1-6 40-50mg/day anavar
week 14-6 clomid.

 

[Maxx Out]

how bout eq and anavar.

week 1-10 400-500mg/wk eq
week 1-6 40-50mg/day anavar
week 14-6 clomid.

Very nice!

 

[rnch]

bump...............

 

[The Terminator]

5'9" 150 with one cycle under his belt.....Sounds like he really needs to get his diet figured out first. 10 lbs. could easily be obtained naturally if he is that skinny.

 

[Bulk32]

agreed! he is to small and should pile on the cal's to gain weight first. if he's not eating right, then no anabolic in the world is going to put a large amount of weight on him.

 

[rnch]

5'9" 150 with one cycle under his belt.....Sounds like he really needs to get his diet figured out first. 10 lbs. could easily be obtained naturally if he is that skinny.

......yes i agree, he looks skinny in all the baggy clothes he wears, but there is some lean muscle mass visible.

he is cleaning up his diet and appears to be eating more and cleaner than in the past.

 

[rnch]

bump.....................

 

[Maxx Out]

bump.....................

How much more info do you need! These guys have given you the best advice possible and there's only a few things he can do. Use what they have given you!

 

[Beezers]

......yes i agree, he looks skinny in all the baggy clothes he wears, but there is some lean muscle mass visible.

he is cleaning up his diet and appears to be eating more and cleaner than in the past.

And he needs to continue this trend for a good two more years. If he is just now starting to get his act together by increasing quality food intake then there is no way he is near ready to use AS nor will they produce a whole lot of results due to insufficient nutrients to synthesize and fuel added muscle tissue. It's apparant that he's an ectomorph which means lack of drugs isn't the problem or the solution. He needs to eat properly day in day out, year in year out. He may not be able to get "massive" due to his genetics but 180 naturla is nothing far fetched with a good diet. From my experience small guys are small for one reason alone. They don't eat enough. I've seen it countless times. I work with people on thier diets and the first thing I have them do is log thier diet for a week. Before this prcess starts they always INSIST they are eating right. By the end of the week it's obvious why the can't grow.

Meal 1
Cherios
Milk

Meal 2
Bag of chips
Pepsi

Meal 3
1 frozen buritto

They think thier easting alot for two reasons. One, they are full from this, so they don't feel the need to eat more. Two, they know nothing about proper diet. Some diets aren't this bad. This is an extreme example of what I've seen. Some do know a "bit" about diet, but still only consume 2000 cals a day once totaled up. He shoould be far more concerned about his diet than gyno. There's no reason a 150 pound person should be using AS. This is indicative that something in the muscle growth equationis off. Training+Proper Diet+Rest+Lifestyle=Muscle growth

AS only multiply this process, not substitute for a missing link.

 

[rnch]

How much more info do you need! These guys have given you the best advice possible and there's only a few things he can do. Use what they have given you!

............with this kind of ATTITUDE, it's easy to see why you have so little karma!