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need help with first cycle

gainer17

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im 17 and ive been working out for maybe a year now. im a junior in high school. i play basketball and im 6ft. 135-140 lbs. i want to put on some more weight and also try to get stronger. in basketball im about 30lbs. down from everyone else on the average and im not as strong. i do have some upper body muscle but my legs are kind of thin. i also want to improve my jump.
(i would like to weigh anywhere from 160-180)
should i do a 10 week cycle then a 1 month break and then other 10 week cycle like the following?

is this anything close to what i should be taking:

Cycle #1:
Week 1: 15 mg Winstrol per day
Week 2: 15 mg Winstrol - 20 mg Dianabol per day
Week 3: 30 mg Winstrol - 20 mg Dianabol per day
Week 4: 30 mg Winstrol - 20 mg Dianabol per day
Week 5: 30 mg Winstrol - 30 mg Dianabol per day
Week 6: 30 mg Winstrol - 30 mg Dianabol per day
Week 7: 30 mg Winstrol - 30 mg Dianabol per day
Week 8: 30 mg Winstrol per day - 100 mg Clomid per day
Week 9: 50 mg Clomid per day
Week 10: 50 mg Clomid per day

Cycle #2:
Week 1: 15 mg Oxandrolone per day
Week 2: 15 mg Oxandrolone - 50 mg Primobolan per day
Week 3: 20 mg Oxandrolone - 100 mg Primobolan per day
Week 4: 20 mg Oxandrolone - 100 mg Primobolan per day
Week 5: 20 mg Oxandrolone - 100 mg Primobolan per day
Week 6: 20 mg Oxandrolone - 100 mg Primobolan per day
Week 7: 20 mg Oxandrolone - 100 mg Primobolan per day
Week 8: 100 mg Primobolan - 100 mg Clomid per day
Week 9: 50 mg Clomid per day
Week 10: 50 mg Clomid per day
 
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good cycle for a 17 y.o.
200-250 grams protein, 250 -300 grams carbs , and 60-80grams of good fats.
training is the next important thing
do this for the next 5-10 years, and read and learn about AS before doin it... its obvious you need to read up. and your only 17!! you natty test production is sky high right now and will only keep goin up.
eat right, train hard, and you WILL make gains.
 
Sweed said:
good cycle for a 17 y.o.
200-250 grams protein, 250 -300 grams carbs , and 60-80grams of good fats.
training is the next important thing
do this for the next 5-10 years, and read and learn about AS before doin it... its obvious you need to read up. and your only 17!! you natty test production is sky high right now and will only keep goin up.
eat right, train hard, and you WILL make gains.
I hear where your coming from but just out of curiousity, why does it matter that i am 17. i know my body is still developing this is just a more of a development. the chances of me having any side affects are just as high or low as you.
 
gainer17 said:
I hear where your coming from but just out of curiousity, why does it matter that i am 17. i know my body is still developing this is just a more of a development. the chances of me having any side affects are just as high or low as you.


You still have a few good years yet for you body to produce some decent levels of test. Now the cycle that you have listed is a decent cycle for your age and experience and you shouldn't really notice any major side effects, but honestly I would hold off the gear until you are at least 25 and just eat like a horse and train hard and heavy. You have all of the test that you could possibly need right now, just flowing in yur' veins.
 
This one website I hang at has a couple pictures of some kid in england that uses gear. His skin is oily as hell, and he looks bloated like some kind of poppin fresh dough boy from hell or something.

And to top it off, he really isn't that strong. For his age he is, but nothing that couldn't be attained by the time he was in his early twenties naturally .

Is it worth it?
 
WTF... Are you serious. Since when should a 17 year old be juicing. Let's get a couple of things straight.

You should not start juicing until:
1) You are 21
2) You have reached some kind of plateau... if you're 6ft 140, you haven't
3) You are 200lbs. Yes 200. If you're 175 and you really want to, well whatever.
4) You have researched what you are taking and understand the effects of the drugs you will be using. If you aren't sure why a 17 year old shouldn't be juicing, you haven't done the research.
5) You have a diet planned out and you can give 110% at the gym, and you will allow 8 hours of rest a night...

I could go on, but you get the point: You do not need juice. You need to learn to eat. If you eat more, you will gain weight. Eat more protein. Learn to train. Spend more time in the training and nutrition forums.
 
gainer17 said:
I hear where your coming from but just out of curiousity, why does it matter that i am 17. i know my body is still developing this is just a more of a development. the chances of me having any side affects are just as high or low as you.

Look bro. Im not much older than you, and i stongly suggest you not to juice. Start taking in mad amounts of protein, im not sure of what your diet looks like now but im sure you don't eat no where near enough. I hear it all the time were people say "I EAT ALL THE TIME". But they don't eat the right stuff, and never enough. Plus, your natual Test levels are through the roof right now, and if you juice it can only make them HIGHER and that will lead to nothing but the production of Estrogen. Now do you want to be bald and have boobs like your mom at 20? Come on bro, use your head and do some research.

Plus why do you want to take Winstrol? Thats more of a cutting up or pre-show cycle. Yes D-Bol is a good pill for strength, but you will lose alot of it once you get off your cycle. If you have your mind set on juicing i suggest you to try a different cycle to begin with. If you still would like help on how to get bigger and gain weight, post up what your routine looks like along with your diet. Im sure there will be alot of people on here that would love to help you power your way on the court. Good Luck, and stay away from the juice for a few more years. You will thank us all in the future. Good Luck!!

Just My $.02
-Andru
 
wouldnt touch the stuff if I were only 17 bro, unless I had a really really good reason, your hardly old enough to work out let alone trying a little "sticky" ....
 
Hey i would like to get the best out of my first cycle, and i was wondering just about how many times i should lift a day during the cycle of dbol?
 
barnett30 said:
Hey i would like to get the best out of my first cycle, and i was wondering just about how many times i should lift a day during the cycle of dbol?

Thread JACK: Anyways i will help you out. You should not lift more than once a day. With Dbol make sure you train hard, and eat eat eat eat eat oh and did i say eat. Drink plenty of water. If you lift more than once a day its actually the worst thing you can do. The old saying the more the better is not true in this case. Just train heavy about 4 to 5 days a week, and get some SLEEP/Rest (most important), EAT, EAT, Stay away from all the candy and junk, and make sure when you cycle off, you stick with it and train even harder. Or you will lose alot of your results. Most important DON"T FORGET TO DO LEGS.

-Andru
Mr. Linky
 
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