NEED HELP with cutting cycle/diet/cardio/training

[Tkc0mand3r]

Hey guys, I'm 24 with a few cycles under my belt and been training since I was 16. 5'11'', 215 pounds with about 15-16% bf (never gotten checked but I'm showing outline of top 2 abs flexed). My cutting NEVER seems to work, I'm a naturally chubby person but I need help to shred me down. So I've been slowly leaning out over the course of my semester here in college from about 230 lbs. I want my results to be must more drastic for the amount of time that has gone buy, I've been running sust 250/week and ran an epistane 20mg/day cycle. Now here is my plan for a 10 week extreme lean out over this summer, PLEASE CRITIQUE. I can not afford an couch (eventually want to do a NPC competition) or much more supplements outside of what I have collected for this but open to suggestions. I WANT TO CUT A LOT OF FAT AND MAINTAIN IF NOT ADD SOME MORE MUSCLE

Cycle:
Week 1-10 Test cyp 500mg/week (Monday 250mg/Thursday 250mg)
Week 1-14 clen 20mcg building up to 40mcg, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (I get intense sides from clen if I can go higher than 40mcg I will)
Week 3-12 oxy elite pro, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (the weeks not on clen)
Everyday staples - multi, fish oil, cla, glucosamine with MSM, creatine and BCAA's (I'll explain when used during diet)

Typical day workout day:
Wake up - clen or oxy elite 30 minute incline treadmill with 5g BCAA's
Meal 1 - 1 cup oats with cinnamon, 1 cup egg whites hot sauce
Meal 2 - 1 cup brown rice, 8 oz. chicken breast, handful of veggies (steamers asparagus or string beans)
Meal 3 - zero impact bar
Workout - 1 hour weights, 30 minute stair master or bike with 5g BCAA's
Meal 4 - 2 scoop whey, 1 scoop waxy maize, 10g creatine
Meal 5 - 1 yam, 8 oz. chicken breast, handful of veggies
Meal 6 - 8 oz. chicken or 93/7 beef in a salad with zero calorie dressing
Meal 7 - 2 scoop casein or 1 scoop casein mixed with plain greek yogurt

Macros come out around 325 protein, 250 carb, 40 fat = 2,660 calorie
So basically I do no sugar, no fat besides from bar and meat sources and meals spread throughout the day

Problem is, I've been doing a moderation with this now at school and not leaning out NEARLY as fast as I want, I cheat here and there because I'm very hungry throughout the day but these macros seem like where I should be. Should I listen to my body? Won't I just maintain doing that? I have a significant amount of fat to cut but find myself barely being able to function on even this low (250grams) of carbs.

I know its long but wanted to give all the information I could, please help guys want to look the best I can this summer and hopefully it's good practice for maybe an NPC show in a year from now

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Hey guys, I'm 24 with a few cycles under my belt and been training since I was 16. 5'11'', 215 pounds with about 15-16% bf (never gotten checked but I'm showing outline of top 2 abs flexed). My cutting NEVER seems to work, I'm a naturally chubby person but I need help to shred me down. So I've been slowly leaning out over the course of my semester here in college from about 230 lbs. I want my results to be must more drastic for the amount of time that has gone buy, I've been running sust 250/week and ran an epistane 20mg/day cycle. Now here is my plan for a 10 week extreme lean out over this summer, PLEASE CRITIQUE. I can not afford an couch (eventually want to do a NPC competition) or much more supplements outside of what I have collected for this but open to suggestions. I WANT TO CUT A LOT OF FAT AND MAINTAIN IF NOT ADD SOME MORE MUSCLE

Cycle:
Week 1-10 Test cyp 500mg/week (Monday 250mg/Thursday 250mg)
Week 1-14 clen 20mcg building up to 40mcg, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (I get intense sides from clen if I can go higher than 40mcg I will)
Week 3-12 oxy elite pro, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (the weeks not on clen)
Everyday staples - multi, fish oil, cla, glucosamine with MSM, creatine and BCAA's (I'll explain when used during diet)

Typical day workout day:
Wake up - clen or oxy elite 30 minute incline treadmill with 5g BCAA's
Meal 1 - 1 cup oats with cinnamon, 1 cup egg whites hot sauce
Meal 2 - 1 cup brown rice, 8 oz. chicken breast, handful of veggies (steamers asparagus or string beans)
Meal 3 - zero impact bar
Workout - 1 hour weights, 30 minute stair master or bike with 5g BCAA's
Meal 4 - 2 scoop whey, 1 scoop waxy maize, 10g creatine
Meal 5 - 1 yam, 8 oz. chicken breast, handful of veggies
Meal 6 - 8 oz. chicken or 93/7 beef in a salad with zero calorie dressing
Meal 7 - 2 scoop casein or 1 scoop casein mixed with plain greek yogurt

Macros come out around 325 protein, 250 carb, 40 fat = 2,660 calorie
So basically I do no sugar, no fat besides from bar and meat sources and meals spread throughout the day

Problem is, I've been doing a moderation with this now at school and not leaning out NEARLY as fast as I want, I cheat here and there because I'm very hungry throughout the day but these macros seem like where I should be. Should I listen to my body? Won't I just maintain doing that? I have a significant amount of fat to cut but find myself barely being able to function on even this low (250grams) of carbs.

I know its long but wanted to give all the information I could, please help guys want to look the best I can this summer and hopefully it's good practice for maybe an NPC show in a year from now

Dont hv much time ill come back but id drop clen drop test to 250 your cutting. Add more cardio imo takes 3500 cals a week to burn 1.5 pounds a week do ur math.

Why the clen cause it sux and not a good idea while doing high vol of cardio do hit cardio. Clen can actually cause weight gain

 

[Tkc0mand3r]

Dont hv much time ill come back but id drop clen drop test to 250 your cutting. Add more cardio imo takes 3500 cals a week to burn 1.5 pounds a week do ur math.

Why the clen cause it sux and not a good idea while doing high vol of cardio do hit cardio. Clen can actually cause weight gain

Ok, I'm used to 500 if not 750 test/week that's why I left it at 500/week. Assuming your telling me to drop to 250 because of bloat I should state I'm trying to achieve 10%bf or so since I haven't been that low ever I don't think the 500 test would bloat me? And clen is a pretty suggested cutting agent from what I understand? Getting more out of my cardio sessions with a higher body temp?

 

[dylangemelli]

first thing, clen is not what i would be using... its dangerous and i just think its shitty period... why test cyp? why not test prop... thats what i would use as a test on cut...
i would be more inclined to use var or proviron as opposed to clen, or even albuterol over clen...

also, you want to lose weight? cut the yams, cut the brown rice, cut the salad and salad dressing... even though the salad dressing is zero calorie its full of sodium... not good on a cut... salad is a misconception amongst many as well... fucking salad will bloat you, i promise you... also cut the 93/7 meat... substitute fish and ground turkey instead...

 

[training700]

I would substitute the yam for a sweet potatoe.

 

[dylangemelli]

I would substitute the yam for a sweet potatoe.

no... if he's trying to cut as much as he wants, no potatoes at all...

 

[Tkc0mand3r]

no... if he's trying to cut as much as he wants, no potatoes at all...

Defiantly willing to take your advice, are you saying no carbs? Or just cause its a potato? I'm following closely to these macros now and am having a hard time with appetite with 250g carb/day. You think I should drop it much lower or is it the source your refering too? Also, you really think at 215-220 lbs I would notice sodium bloat from dressings, seasonings and sauces?

Thank for your input

 

[dylangemelli]

Defiantly willing to take your advice, are you saying no carbs? Or just cause its a potato? I'm following closely to these macros now and am having a hard time with appetite with 250g carb/day. You think I should drop it much lower or is it the source your refering too? Also, you really think at 215-220 lbs I would notice sodium bloat from dressings, seasonings and sauces?

Thank for your input

its not the fact that its carbs, its the source... potatoes are found to have caused weight gain... now, can that be a guarantee? no... but i always test things when i read them to try to find the accuracy behind the study and potatoes are not going to help you in terms of cutting... and absolutely you will notice bloat from that shit bro... i do this for a living, and if you want the type of cutting you are after, cut the shit i advised you...

 

[gymjunkie09]

Dont hv much time ill come back but id drop clen drop test to 250 your cutting. Add more cardio imo takes 3500 cals a week to burn 1.5 pounds a week do ur math.

Why the clen cause it sux and not a good idea while doing high vol of cardio do hit cardio. Clen can actually cause weight gain

agreed, grab some n2stim...great stim without the sides

 

[Tkc0mand3r]

its not the fact that its carbs, its the source... potatoes are found to have caused weight gain... now, can that be a guarantee? no... but i always test things when i read them to try to find the accuracy behind the study and potatoes are not going to help you in terms of cutting... and absolutely you will notice bloat from that shit bro... i do this for a living, and if you want the type of cutting you are after, cut the shit i advised you...

Awesome, sounds good I will, any other advise to replace it with? I'm starving/drained/cranky even with 250g carb a day!