Need Help, stressing bout first time use

[csco23]

I am preparing to start stepping up my game.
I have only done winstrol a year ago, and all effects are gone, pretty much.
I am a novice when it comes to doing this, and only go by my friends advice.
I am going to take take test and trenbolone, is that an okay mix for my first real cycle. I dont want to get huge, just bigger, and lean. What anbout fermera as an AE is that okay.

 

[chordz]

I am preparing to start stepping up my game.
I have only done winstrol a year ago, and all effects are gone, pretty much.
I am a novice when it comes to doing this, and only go by my friends advice.
I am going to take take test and trenbolone, is that an okay mix for my first real cycle. I dont want to get huge, just bigger, and lean. What anbout fermera as an AE is that okay.

Why did you decide on using Tren? What will your dosages be?

 

[tiggerizme]

Tren is a very powerful steroid. I don't think it wise to use for a first timer. I'd say simply stick with your Test for about 12 wks. You Winny cycle is going to do anything now. Your receptors are probably fairly new and you'll make some nice gains on a Test cycle. Give it a shot.

 

[csco23]

Why did you decide on using Tren? What will your dosages be?

Alot of my friends are on the tren test cycyle, and reccomended I try it, I am the smallest of all my friends, getting a little annoying, why is it you guys think I shouldnt do tren, just because I am a first timer, what will be negative that happens, I dont want to just do test as I am worried about getting bloated, and it is summer soon.

 

[bca21]

you definetly need research. if you do just test you can take a-dex to keep your bloat off and youll be fine. You definetly dont need tren right now. whats your stats

 

[lakelandrb20]

I am preparing to start stepping up my game.
I have only done winstrol a year ago, and all effects are gone, pretty much.
I am a novice when it comes to doing this, and only go by my friends advice.
I am going to take take test and trenbolone, is that an okay mix for my first real cycle. I dont want to get huge, just bigger, and lean. What anbout fermera as an AE is that okay.

just run test by itself bro and use adex throughout

 

[schneiderc2004]

I don't recommend you use Tren, because is a very powerful anabolic. Seems that you don't have much experience with gear. I would suggest you do more research about gear. Anabolics 2006 is a very book about the subject, or you can look around this website or elsewhere. Don't be offended but we all need to do some "homework" before we use gear.

 

[theprofessor]

how old are you???

 

[Bruce]

you dont' need tren, especially if you want to bulk, test is all you need with a good AI. how old are you and what are you eating

 

[growinsc]

hey bro what kind of build do you have, i stay lean no matter what, i have done just test and dbol cylce and didnt bloat at all but had great lean gains(bout 10LBS each time) and kept them.

 

[Bruce]

yea me too, i would reccomend you take some test and tbol or eq and tbol. depending on what kind of mass you want. i don't like test that is why i say eq. but test tbol would be a great pick. still you have to tell us what your eating. you can inject tren/test/deca/winny/var/tbol/gh and slin and if you aren't eating right its all wasted

 

[growinsc]

yea me too, i would reccomend you take some test and tbol or eq and tbol. depending on what kind of mass you want. i don't like test that is why i say eq. but test tbol would be a great pick. still you have to tell us what your eating. you can inject tren/test/deca/winny/var/tbol/gh and slin and if you aren't eating right its all wasted

def agree almost wasted mt first cycle by not chowin down enough, thought i was then counted and needed about 1,000 to 1500 more cals,

 

[letsrun4it]

yea me too, i would reccomend you take some test and tbol or eq and tbol. depending on what kind of mass you want. i don't like test that is why i say eq. but test tbol would be a great pick. still you have to tell us what your eating. you can inject tren/test/deca/winny/var/tbol/gh and slin and if you aren't eating right its all wasted

if thats you in the picture, how tall are you and how much do you weigh? sometimes i think you look big and other times i think you look small

 

[Bruce]

i am 6 3 185 6-7% bf. 16.5 inch arms 17 pumped up. 28 inch waist. very small frame. i am by no means a massive person. i like my build, would like to be about 205 when all is said and done. i like getting there gradually. i am a hard gainer, if i don't take in 5000cals i lose weight. i wasted a lot of winny cause i was a dumb newb, i didn't have ef and i followed what my idiot boy was doing, he is 215 5% only uses winny never comes off really for more than a few weeks. yea a moron but he benches 475 like its the bar. go figure. he doesn't eat just smokes cigs and drinks lattes. so you can see how i thought winny is magic. was eating like 2500 cals and wondering why i wasn't growing. i wasted that cycle which lasted 6 months no joke, came here found out winny was toxic and had blood work, i was luckily fine, elevated my cholesterol that was it. i dialed in diet stuck around ef. my second cycle i gained a lot off deca and winny but lost it all cause i had to have gallbladder surgery and take 4 months off, right in the middle of pct. so i consider my tbol cycle last summer and this my only real cycles because i am eating right.

 

[csco23]

I don't recommend you use Tren, because is a very powerful anabolic. Seems that you don't have much experience with gear. I would suggest you do more research about gear. Anabolics 2006 is a very book about the subject, or you can look around this website or elsewhere. Don't be offended but we all need to do some "homework" before we use gear.

Hey i am the first to admit I am a rookie. I work out alot, but as for as gear, i just know what my friends tell me, and they have been doing it for years and have way different outlooks than i should have. But i have been sketched about the tren, so i dont think ill do it now. not right now at least. i really appreciate it.

 

[csco23]

i am 6 3 185 6-7% bf. 16.5 inch arms 17 pumped up. 28 inch waist. very small frame. i am by no means a massive person. i like my build, would like to be about 205 when all is said and done. i like getting there gradually. i am a hard gainer, if i don't take in 5000cals i lose weight. i wasted a lot of winny cause i was a dumb newb, i didn't have ef and i followed what my idiot boy was doing, he is 215 5% only uses winny never comes off really for more than a few weeks. yea a moron but he benches 475 like its the bar. go figure. he doesn't eat just smokes cigs and drinks lattes. so you can see how i thought winny is magic. was eating like 2500 cals and wondering why i wasn't growing. i wasted that cycle which lasted 6 months no joke, came here found out winny was toxic and had blood work, i was luckily fine, elevated my cholesterol that was it. i dialed in diet stuck around ef. my second cycle i gained a lot off deca and winny but lost it all cause i had to have gallbladder surgery and take 4 months off, right in the middle of pct. so i consider my tbol cycle last summer and this my only real cycles because i am eating right.

i must sound like an idiot but whats tbol.....test?

 

[csco23]

how old are you???

23 years old. I have one last proposal for using the tren, my firend suggested maybe trying smaller doses, he was saying i do 500 test and like 350 tren,( that number could me wrong, he was gonna demo it for me, and write me out a list) its the slow acting, so i will be on it for like 10 weeks...basically is there anyway i can do it, as a first timer and be okay, my other firend in the same boat, total first time user of gear, is doing it for sure, and he doesnt care, but when i first got it, my frirnds where saying i should do it for sure, but since i found this site, and posed some valid concerns to them now they are suggesting it may not be the best idea either. Is there any way I can pull off the tren, or should i just save it and do the test. The only reason im pushing it so much is I bought it already, and all my friends are on it, and loving the results.

 

[csco23]

you definetly need research. if you do just test you can take a-dex to keep your bloat off and youll be fine. You definetly dont need tren right now. whats your stats

what about liquidex, that similar to adex when taking test?

 

[csco23]

yea me too, i would reccomend you take some test and tbol or eq and tbol. depending on what kind of mass you want. i don't like test that is why i say eq. but test tbol would be a great pick. still you have to tell us what your eating. you can inject tren/test/deca/winny/var/tbol/gh and slin and if you aren't eating right its all wasted

I eat like shit right now, find it hard to stick to my diet truthfully, my girlfriend kills it for me. But i still consume three shakes a day, and try and consume a couple chicken breats or some tuna daily as well. But I cheat, eat alot of quiznos randomly, and eat out but have stuck to salads and chicken or salmon most times at restaurants.

 

[Bruce]

tbol is oral turinabol. very similar to winstrol or anavar. side free no joint pain like winny, a bit more mass than var. great steroid, can be run alone or with injects. works only for about 25 days for some reason but you can get 7-10lbs in that time and keep it if you eat and train right