Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I was looking for some advice on my 1st cycle....i'm 18 with about 3 years serious lifting experience. I'm a pretty lean 170 lbs. and pretty strong, but my weight and size has always bothered the hell outta me. I'm thinking bout running a cycle of d-bol at 25-30 mgs a day for 6 weeks. Either that alone or stacked wit deca at 200mg for maybe 8 weeks. I was leaning more towards d-bol for the sheer weight gain, etc. Clomid post cycle wit some nolva on hand too. Real simple, but like i said I'm a rookie so any pointers would be appreciated. Also, wat can i expect in terms of all the water weight, and jus keeping my gains? Main thing I'm worried bout at my age is closing my growth plates and all that bs, so... thoughts?
need help on 1st cycle
- Thread starter JIMguy
- Start date
JIMguy said:
If you haven't grown for a while, you should be fine. If you still want to grow though, you might wanna give it a second thought. If you're looking for a basic cycle, just do 500mg of test a week, with appropriate PCT (nolva, clomid, HCG). Expand that with a bit of d-bol, and if you want some more out of it, add deca.
Do not do d-bol alone, and you might just wanna go up to 300mg deca. 4-5 weeks of d-bol should be enough, since any more might put unneeded strain on your liver.
flyin j
New member
JIMguy said:
I lifted natty til i was 22 then did a cycle and im glad i waited, your 18 if you tough it out and lift natural til say your 21 at least, because you probably still have alot to learn you will grow, your 170 right now wait a while learn how to diet and eat right and get on when your 200 and pretty lean doing it now is dangerous, when i started seriously lifting i was 6'3 180 (skinny) 4 months before i turned 18 (i lifted with the football team all the way through highschool but never seriously) I started REASEARCHING HOW TO EAT TO GET BIG and from that age until i was22 right before my first cycle i was 255 and average bodyfat no gut or anything thats when i decided to take it to the next level, so basically wait until you have really hit your peak because your still a couple of years away.... and ive always heard dbol by itself makes you puffy and fat
"Life is ours we live it our way" -METALLICA- 'Nothing else matters'
tatman3177
New member
i'd wait for a couple of years to cycle. you have alot of nat. test in you right now, use it and grow nat.
but if you turn away from all advice here about waiting, then you should go with a test only cycle 500mg wk , 10 wk. this will help you see how your body reacts to ass. then go from there. make sure you have your pct. stuff b4 you start any cycle.
good luck bro.
but if you turn away from all advice here about waiting, then you should go with a test only cycle 500mg wk , 10 wk. this will help you see how your body reacts to ass. then go from there. make sure you have your pct. stuff b4 you start any cycle.
good luck bro.
JIMguy said:
AHHHH, bro. I feel bad starting so early hearing a lot of guys starting AS when they're 28- 35. Im 22 and have my first coming in 3 weeks. I am also 225- 230 right now, but i have been lifting for 8.5 years. I still think you can wait a few years and see what you can do naturally first. You can put on an easy 30 lbs in 4 years bro with all that NATURAL test in you! Please wait. Also research and become a steriod guru before you cycle. It helps to know waht your puttin in your body
slat1
New member
I happened to come across some old information on myself the other day. When I was 20 I was 6'1" at 190. Im 6'3" now. Thats two inches I grew after I was 20!!! You could be missing out on that and more. When I was 15 I was 6'1"... so I didn't grow for 5 years then grew two inches. Your body is still naturally growing. Don't throw that away. Wait... learn...
One thing that bothers me about this post is that you didn't mention your diet, your routine, what supplements you take etc. You didn't ask about PCT either.
You will regret it if you use AAS now. I waited until I was 27 and I'm glad I did!!!
One thing that bothers me about this post is that you didn't mention your diet, your routine, what supplements you take etc. You didn't ask about PCT either.
You will regret it if you use AAS now. I waited until I was 27 and I'm glad I did!!!
Im glad i (sort of) waited. I was 20 when I came on here and I was asking around about a PH (mag10) and guys just told me to do the real stuff and I was stupid and asking around about it. people were telling me to do it when someone, can't remember who, said "hold on we dont know anything about this kid.." and so he then proceded to tell me to research and wait a few years. I am glad I listened and read up what I was going to be putting into my body, and what side effects were, what pct was and all this other very important stuff.
shamrock11
New member
I agree you should wait you are still too young. I have different reasons though. You want a good natural base before you do aas. Not just in your muscle, but the connective tissues to. You will stand a greater chance of injury to your joint b/c you haven't had long to strengthen these connecive tissues. With the hugh strength gains you should make off your first cycle, this will also increase your chances of injury here. Just wait a few more years to build yourself up first.
fugetaboutit
New member
slat1 and shamrock have very,very good points that should be taken VERY seriously. The fact that you're probably not done growing yet would be my turn-off from steroids if I were you. You will pretty much not grow anymore if you take the plunge. And as shamrock stated, and it's a very good point, you are risking injury to your muscles and ligaments which could sideline you for months or even worse, you may never be back to your original condition. You probably have plenty of natural test running through your system and that should give you good results along with some other great supplements out there. Give that natural route a shot and train as hard as you would if you were on steroids. Eat right, get enough sleep, limit your alcohol and drug consumption (hopefully you don't do drugs, I don't know if you smoke pot or not), and that should give you a great base to build on in 3-4 years (at the very least). I didn't start using steroids until I was 25. Now I'm 27 and am glad I waited as well. Good luck with the route you choose!
I did my first cycle when I was 17. That's even younger than you. I'm not going to lie and say I regret it but I do think some knowledge about your body and more time for maturity go a long way. Even with three yrs of lifting experience you still have a ways to go about learning about your body and your nutritional needs. Also make the first cycle a good one. D-bol and test sounds good to me. Never was a fan of deca.
JIMguy said:
1. you are WAY to young. wait till your 20-21(using AAS will shut your natural test levels and stump your growth-wait and you wont regret)
2. dbol and deca is terrible cycle-its good if you want to have deca-dick and look like a moonpie due to all water retention. test is base for ALL AAS(http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=77975&page=1).
3. if you REALLY want to use it(which i think anyone here will say that you shouldint for at least 2 more years) you should use TEST only or stacked with some dbol.
4. do alot of research and ask when you have question.
creepS
BRO dont run d-bol alone, never run d-bol alone, run test as a base, d-bol alone you will loose all the weight (so they say, not actually true)...never run a d-bol only cycle, eat, train grow, run test as a base...21!!!!!!!! dont start gear yet, you are still producing plenty of testosterone (something like 10mg ed in comparison to a cycle 100mg ed) you will fuse your bones run test/tren/deca/dbol/var only instead....
Similar threads
