Need help choosing next cycle

[bamstroker]

Just as the title reads.... I am 35, 221 pounds, 13% BF, 5'6", and have just completed 1 cycle. First cycle was Test-E 500mgs per week for 12 weeks and D-bol at 40 mgs per day for 6 weeks. Cycle went well, no gyno, no real sides other than some bacne. I started first cycle weighing 205 and was able to pack on 16 pounds of muscle. I am currently on PCT of Nolva and clomid and we will see how much I keep....anyways, I tend to bloat and put on fat rather easily, so what I am looking for is a good solid cycle which will allow me to put on about 10 additonal pounds, but get the hard ripped look. I have no problem keeping diet and cardio in check. What would you guys recommend? I was thinking of maybe another test - E cycle with Tren or Equipose. I am concerned with running the boldenone due to the anxiety as I already have this condition and could not imagine exaggerating it, and I know Tren is supposed to be for "more advanced" users.Could I run a Test/Deca/ Winstrol cycle with results like I am looing for? Any info would be great.

Thanks

 

[Varga]

Just as the title reads.... I am 35, 221 pounds, 13% BF, 5'6", and have just completed 1 cycle. First cycle was Test-E 500mgs per week for 12 weeks and D-bol at 40 mgs per day for 6 weeks. Cycle went well, no gyno, no real sides other than some bacne. I started first cycle weighing 205 and was able to pack on 16 pounds of muscle. I am currently on PCT of Nolva and clomid and we will see how much I keep....anyways, I tend to bloat and put on fat rather easily, so what I am looking for is a good solid cycle which will allow me to put on about 10 additonal pounds, but get the hard ripped look. I have no problem keeping diet and cardio in check. What would you guys recommend? I was thinking of maybe another test - E cycle with Tren or Equipose. I am concerned with running the boldenone due to the anxiety as I already have this condition and could not imagine exaggerating it, and I know Tren is supposed to be for "more advanced" users.Could I run a Test/Deca/ Winstrol cycle with results like I am looing for? Any info would be great.

Thanks

It's hard to say with any certainty how you are going to react since you said that it's easy for you to put on fat. Test/deca/winny is fine but you need to go into it as lean as you can. Keep dosages on the low side and do cardio. Nutritionally, keep salt at bay and throw in maybe 2 days of low carbs a week. If I were you I would do NPP/prop/winny to avoid as much as possible the puffy look and bloating prob

 

[bamstroker]

It's hard to say with any certainty how you are going to react since you said that it's easy for you to put on fat. Test/deca/winny is fine but you need to go into it as lean as you can. Keep dosages on the low side and do cardio. Nutritionally, keep salt at bay and throw in maybe 2 days of low carbs a week. If I were you I would do NPP/prop/winny to avoid as much as possible the puffy look and bloating prob

So if I go with the faster acting esters, I may keep the bloat at bay?

Also, the Deca/test/Winny was just a suggestion. If anyone has a better choice for my goals, I am open for advice.


Thanks

 

[smtimelevi]

For a second cycle I would use EQ over tren. Tren is a rough one side effect wise. If your thinking long ester test maybe keep the dose at 250mg a week to hold the bloat at bay and up the secondary compound, as long as the secondary doesnt aromatize.
But somethin like test prop wont make you bloat as bad and hits way faster. Dont worry about about the anxiety with eq unless you already sweat bullets over nothin in day to day life. Ive never tried tren so I cant say much about it but the other guys will steer you away from it.
First off I think you gotta finish up pct and get back to normal, look into some hcg.

but think this over -

wk 1-10 300mg test p

wk 1-10 200-400 mg eq

 

[eddymerckx]

1-12 500 prop
1-12 500 primo
1-8 300 tren ace
6-12 30 anavar ed
hcg 250 e/5 days

 

[goku_kakarot77]

test / deca/ will bloat u if u bloated off ur last cycle, want lean gains go for test prop and eq, test p 1-14 100mgs eod and eq 1-12 400mgs, eq is awesome lean hard gains and veins everywhere, u could add winny last 6 weks at 50mgs ed if u want (watch the joints), eq anxiety is overrated im using it now at 400mgs no anxiety what so ever, deca at 250mgs gave me BAD anxiety, still love it though, prop should give less bloat but its all in t he diet, tren should not be used second cycle, just m y2cc

peace

 

[cobracock1979]

1-12 500 prop
1-12 500 primo
1-8 300 tren ace
6-12 30 anavar ed
hcg 250 e/5 days

Awesome cycle!!

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

1-12 500 prop
1-12 500 primo
1-8 300 tren ace
6-12 30 anavar ed
hcg 250 e/5 days

The only thing I would change would be to run the tren at the end of the cycle and increase the dose of anavar to 50mg ED. Other than that, solid.

 

[advanced-stealth]

Very nice cycle.

1-12 500 prop
1-12 500 primo
1-8 300 tren ace
6-12 30 anavar ed
hcg 250 e/5 days

 

[bamstroker]

1-12 500 prop
1-12 500 primo
1-8 300 tren ace
6-12 30 anavar ed
hcg 250 e/5 days

I am interested in this cycle......you don't think this is too many compounds for a 2nd cycle? I have no issues pinning ED and I am really wanting to run prop anyways....was also curious if tren ace at 300 per week is a normal to low dose. I have read enough to know that I eventually want to ride the tren train and if you think this would be a solid cycle for me on my 2nd go, Im in. I need to get my PCT finished and give my body some tiume off and work on reducing my BF%. Can you guys give me some advice on what ancillaries to have on hand with this cycle? Will I need A-dex and Caber? Is the hcg run during cycle to keep from shutting down REALLY hard? What should a PCT look like for this cycle?

Thanks for all of your help. I plan to run this in December......

 

[eddymerckx]

I am interested in this cycle......you don't think this is too many compounds for a 2nd cycle? I have no issues pinning ED and I am really wanting to run prop anyways....was also curious if tren ace at 300 per week is a normal to low dose. I have read enough to know that I eventually want to ride the tren train and if you think this would be a solid cycle for me on my 2nd go, Im in. I need to get my PCT finished and give my body some tiume off and work on reducing my BF%. Can you guys give me some advice on what ancillaries to have on hand with this cycle? Will I need A-dex and Caber? Is the hcg run during cycle to keep from shutting down REALLY hard? What should a PCT look like for this cycle?

Thanks for all of your help. I plan to run this in December......

i usually keep my cycles very simple, but for your goals this may be about right and it is not that long. for a second cycle, it looks likes a lot of compunds, but the primo and var are very easy on your body; the test is not too high; and the tren, well, i would keep the dose at 300 week your 1st time and you should be fine. and yes, adex or aromasin and caber must be on hand.

to keep if very simple, just the prop and primo, but the gains you seek require a bit more anabolic kick (hence the tren).

 

[10001110101]

get down to ~<10% bf first otherwise trying to get a "hard" look w/ gear just won't happen. Honestly at your size and your height i'd take this opportunity to cut hard, you'll be fuckin stoked with the results if you do it right.

maybe something like
test-250/wk
with var 40-60mg last 6-8 wks.
if you can't get/afford var i'd go with winstrol although var is good on a cut as it has great fat loss properties.

test/tren is good but has many sides.

i'd avoid eq on a cut, good bro of mine tried to cut on test and eq and found it nearly impossible to stick to his diet... b/c eq raises appetite for most.

 

[bamstroker]

get down to ~<10% bf first otherwise trying to get a "hard" look w/ gear just won't happen. Honestly at your size and your height i'd take this opportunity to cut hard, you'll be fuckin stoked with the results if you do it right.

maybe something like
test-250/wk
with var 40-60mg last 6-8 wks.
if you can't get/afford var i'd go with winstrol although var is good on a cut as it has great fat loss properties.

test/tren is good but has many sides.

i'd avoid eq on a cut, good bro of mine tried to cut on test and eq and found it nearly impossible to stick to his diet... b/c eq raises appetite for most.

I appreciate the input and I think I agree with you. I would love to get down to less than 10% BF. The last time I tried to cut down, I must have done something wrong as I lost alot of the muscle I had gained(this was all pre-AAS). I got down to 170 pounds and 10% BF, but I lost ALOT of my size...Whats my best option here now, cut down to 10% and risk losing ALOT of muscle, or try to keep what I have gained from the Test/D-bol cycle and lean up some and hit a good cutting cycle really hard when blood tests come back good? My overall goal would be to be around 205-210 at about 10% BF. Im not trying to compete or anything, just doing it for myself.......thanks again for all of the help everyone has gievn me...

 

[Varga]

So if I go with the faster acting esters, I may keep the bloat at bay?

Also, the Deca/test/Winny was just a suggestion. If anyone has a better choice for my goals, I am open for advice.


Thanks

Fast acting stuff does keep bloat at bay and also works quickly. I mean there are other cmpounds you can run other than deca/test/winny......maybe like mentioned primo/eq/prop. I did that stack and it was great.
You should get some great results either way. There is little need to keep adding more compounds into the mix if you eat right and do cardio.