Need help Brothers

[f4209211]

Whats up fellas,
I have been researching and thinking about using gear for over a year now and have finally decided to do it. i have read just about everything on everything. Gone back and forth on what my cycle will look like and have finally decided to do this cycle. Need ya'll expert opinion on what i should expect.

I'm 28 years old, lifting for almost 10 years. I weigh 200 at 5'9' around 15% bodyfat. I wish to gain around 10-15 pounds of solid muscle, any more would be a bonus and hoping to lose some bodyfat as well.

This is what i'm thinking about doing.

250mg of SUSTANON per week for first 7 weeks
200mg of DECA per week for 8 weeks
i will use CYTOMEL for the first 4 or 5 weeks as i have read it helps making juice more effective and finish up with CLOMID in week 9 and 10.

Was wondering how much of the gains can i expect to keep and is there anything else i can add to make it more effective, thats not that liver toxic or water retentive.

Any suggestions, ideas, opinions will be highly appreciated.
Thanks and long live this board. It rules

 

[The Terminator]

Good to see nice sensible first timer doses. However I would run them both for 10 weeks, or if you're going to cut one a week shorter I would make it the deca (the reasoning is it "seems" to shut down natty test more, although I have no anecdotal evidence of this....just hearsay really) Cytomel: I have no experience with so I don't know about that. Also arimidex would help you stay "harder" looking bu twith these doages its probably not necessary. I need some

 

[darkvader111]

Good to see nice sensible first timer doses. However I would run them both for 10 weeks, or if you're going to cut one a week shorter I would make it the deca (the reasoning is it "seems" to shut down natty test more, although I have no anecdotal evidence of this....just hearsay really) Cytomel: I have no experience with so I don't know about that. Also arimidex would help you stay "harder" looking bu twith these doages its probably not necessary.
The Terminator


Agreed

 

[Saul Rosenburg]

I don't think you will have a problem this is one of the better cycles i have seen in the last 48 hrs. I believe you will not have a problem gaining 10 lbs my guess is when your done you will be down to 11-12% BF thats a good size to be good job.I have never used clomid but the Sus and Deca I have seen good results

 

[Guiness]

I would use the sust for at least 8 weeks.

Just my 2 cents

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I would switch to a single-ester test.

 

[rj420]

IMO

I would up the test to 500mg/week, drop the deca and use an anti-e to keep water retention low. Deca does shutdown the HPTA quite well, maybe not at 200mg/week, but for that little amount I wouldn't even bother with it. You will save money and be much happier with test only, and it is still a very safe first cycle. Another thing you get to learn is exactly how your body reacts to Test.

500mg/week Test weeks 1-10
.25mg/adex or 1.25mg/femara ED weeks 1-13
nolvadex 20mg/day or clomid post cycle (usual dosaging) weeks 12-15

 

[Golden_Muscle]

Your a really smart bro. Its nice to see some people dont jump to crazy doses right away. Your for sure ready for your 1st bro.

I would do sust 250mg/wk for 8 weeks, and keep the deca the same. Use your cytomel if you want but it wont make a difference. If your stuff is real you will gain a nice 25lbs on that if your diet is good for bulking, and your training is awsome, and get pleanty of sleep. By using clomid you will keep about 20+ lbs If you keep your diet up. Ditch the cytomel if you want, you dont need it.

Instead spend your money on, milk thistle, cranberry extract, cranberry juice, food and vitamins.

 

[musketeer]

How about adding 30-40 mg per day of DIANABOL for the first month as the injectables take time to kick in.

Also, check out the sust cycling charts to alter the taper.

Let us know how it goes

 

[TheGame_620]

I would take the sust at 500mgs for 10 weeks, and also take liquidex. The deca at 200 and sust at 500 would be fine for a first time cycle, just dont forget the anti e's , this is especially important since you dont know how your body reacts to estrogen.