Need Help 1st cycle-....

[big_mike]

Hello everyone..i am new to this board..but have been a member of anabolic review for quite some time now. I finally registered here...but heres the dilemma. I am about to start my first cycle. I am 21 yrs of age, about 5"7 weigh175 with about 9% body fat. I wanted to do a TEST Enanthate/EQ cycle consisting of 500mg Test E weekly and 400mg EQ. Shots on Mondays and Thursdays...so it would look like this

Mondays- TestE- 250mg EQ-200mg wks 1-13
Thursdays- Teste- 250mg EQ-200mg wks 1-12
PCT starting 3 weeks after last test shot
including Nolvadex 10mg ed
Clomid 3 weeks after last test shot at 300mg for the first 2 days, 200 for the next 6 etc etc.


I was recently researching a Test Prop cycle....with EQ as a second AS as well...but i need some help with this cycle. Someone told me 75mg ed etc.
I just want to minimize the fat gains...since i just got done doing some cutting substances (not AS). I heard that prop is a lean mass gainer...but it hurts a lot more. Which would you consider a best first cycle considering my stats? I have my diet in order..and have been training religiously for the past 2-3 years. Any help would be much appreciated.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

way too much gear for a first cycle

do a search for "first cycle" and read up a bit

cheers

 

[flex2win]

Agreed...no need for close to a gram your first time...keep it simple..
Wk 1-10: 250mg Enanthate/wk
I very rarely will go over 500mg/wk of test, even after 2 years of experience...save the EQ for another cycle..

 

[mikeya02]

If u want to minimize fat gains I'd say to drop the test and go with 200mg(400 if u have enough)EQ/week for 10 weeks.

 

[biogeared]

400mg of eq and 250 mg of test e is a nice first cycle. I wouldn't recommend doses higher than that though.

 

[big_mike]

ok...so if i want to do 250mg of test E every week...then should i just inject on mondays??? and inject the 400mg of EQ on mondays and thursdays? Since the Test E has a long acting ester...im assuming it would be okay to inject the Test E on wednesdays..right?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

400mg of eq and 250 mg of test e is a nice first cycle. I wouldn't recommend doses higher than that though.

I would go with this option. It should yield great gains for a frist cycle with minimal side effects.

I don't personally buy into the theory that some tests cause more or less fat gain or water retention. If you understand how est weights effect total dose, and how they impact release rates into your blood stream, you can make virtually any two test compounds act the same by adjusting doses and injection frequincy. Personally I use prop, simply because it is by far the cheapest per mg to manufacture, and I often use other short chain esters such as tren acetate, so it isn't a big deal to combine them for frequint injections.