Need advice.

[Royce]

Here is the breakdown.

22 years old
6 foot 4 or 6 foot 5
215-220 pounds

Not all muscle mass like all the guys I see here.

Was looking at the Lipo stack. Now I figure thats just suplements you would take during a cycle and not alone.

What I am looking to do is lose fat and increase my muscle. More so the fat, But since im a bigger guy I dont want to look scrawny, so muscle mass would be great.

What would you suggest I take? How long?

 

[RADAR]

Here is the breakdown.

22 years old
6 foot 4 or 6 foot 5
215-220 pounds

Not all muscle mass like all the guys I see here.

Was looking at the Lipo stack. Now I figure thats just suplements you would take during a cycle and not alone.

What I am looking to do is lose fat and increase my muscle. More so the fat, But since im a bigger guy I dont want to look scrawny, so muscle mass would be great.

What would you suggest I take? How long?

The lipo stack is great, if you want to speed up the process take lipo stim first thing in the morning with lipoflame and do morning cardio make everything a breeze.
Get a Protein shake afterward,thats when the bodys demand for nutrients is at its highest.

RADAR

 

[Royce]

Not to sound like the typical. I want to get rich fast guy....

But I mean. Id like to lean up real well real fast...So I guess im contradicting myself here.

I figure I want to get crazy jacked and lose my weight in a crazy, least amount of time possible. If that was the case, what stack would you find most viable for me? It seems to me the illegals are more appealing to me rather then the legal drugs.

 

[Boxingheels]

Hi Royce, I was in your shoes once and am the exact same height and weight as you. I would stick to the Lipostack. Needto's stuff has a great rep here and many people have used it to achieve their goals so that could be a good way to go!

In regards to aas, you are still very young and you can put on some good muscle as well as lose the fat. Try working on your diet and taking a look at the nutrition section here. Train hard, eat right, get sleep, up your protein and you should be good to go. Not trying to take the wind out of your sails but from your post I can tell you aren't ready/dont have the base yet to start taking aas.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Dude there is NO MIRACLE LOSE THE WEIGHT IN 3 WEEKS healthy way to lose the fat.

Get the LIPOSHRED STACK, LIPOFLAME and LIPOSTIM are the best products for your position right now. They are amazing! Great prices at NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.

-Legacy

 

[Royce]

Im not talking 3 weeks. I mean to pick up some muscle and lose weight in around 2 months.

Like, how about a stack of

winny
andro
clen

Would that help a considerable amount? Im sorry, im just curious.

 

[sweed]

2-3lbs a week fat loss is key, that is a perfect goal everyweek. What is your diet and what is your training like?

 

[Nelson Montana]

The lipo stack is great, but you don;t achieve your goals by taking the right pills. At your size, there's no reason not to be able to put on muscle and lose fat. Your first concern is your training. That's what does it. The supps just give a 5% advantage. But without the training, that small advantage won;t do much.

Just keeping it real.

 

[Royce]

Honestly I work from about 630 am to 5 pm...so I dont have much workout time. I get home have to make food for the kids etc. Which leaves me with only the weights in my room.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Royce;

I've known a lot of guys that blamed the fact they weren't in great shape to the fact that they didn't use drugs..

but that's bullshit..

I've known a lot of guys that weren't "good" at bodybuilding use drugs and see little to no results, even mega-dosing shit..

Learn to diet, learn to weight train, learn and try supplements..

learn to count calories and understand nutrition..

You'll get 10x the results learning how to do things right than someone that doesn't using drugs.

Have the discipline to MAKE TIME for your workouts and meals.. We all do it.. Very few (if any) of us can just sit and plan our day around our bodybuilding..

Trust me, do things right... then use drugs.

or else you'll look normal anyways.

 

[d baller]

The following workout takes 40 minutes with a partner if you don't rest between sets. Great for putting on lean muscle mass and increasing strength fast. I usually charge a lot of money for this information. Let me know if you have any questions.

I put together a program that has been working great for me and everyone I have trained for years. Strength will increase week after week, and size usually goes hand in hand with strength increases if you're on a bulking diet. I find that a 4 week cycle is ideal, then I start over with heavier weights or change up my workout for a couple of weeks to shock the system.

There are five key elements to getting big and strong on this workout. They are:
1) Must train with a partner and at an extremely High Intensity!!) Must NOT deviate from the workout (do not do extra excercises, sets, or reps!! - - Must stretch and do cardio as prescribed).
3) Must follow pyramid of weights and reps. Natural Athletes decrease reps by 2 reps and increase weights by 5% each week. (You are not supposed to be able to complete the last rep of your first set without help from your spotter, and the last 2-3 reps of your second set without help). **(If you're taking AAS, you may need to increase your weights by 10% or more per week)**
4) Must be on a bulking diet (caloric surplus...no carb depleting...ex. 40% Carbs/40% Protein/20% Fat).
5) Must get 8 hours of uninterupted sleep per night.


WEEK 1
DAY 1 - Chest, Shoulders, Bi's, Tri's, Abs
Lower body warm-up on bike or treadmill for 5 min
Upper body warm-up with 2x10 Push-ups (I do 2 warm-up sets of bench presses)
Flat Bench Barbell 2x10x200 (Sets x Reps x Weight)
Behind the Neck Barbell 2x10
Flat Bench Dumbell Flyes 2x10
Side Lateral Dumbell Raises 2x10
Lying EZ Bar Tricep Extensions 2x10
Standing Barbell Bicep Curls 2x10
Incline Sit-ups 2xMax Reps
Stretching 5 minutes

DAY 2 - OFF
Warmup 5 minutes
Stretching 5 minutes

DAY 3 - Legs, Back, Forearms, Neck
Back Squats Barbell 2x20
Deadlifts Barbell 2x12
Lying Leg Curls 2x12
Lying Calf Raises 2x20
Weighted Pullups 2x12
Bent-over Rows 2x12
Wrist Curls Barbell 1xMax Reps
Reverse Wrist Curls Barbell 1xMax Reps
Neck 1xMax Reps (each direction)
Stretching 5 minutes

DAY 4 - OFF
Warmup 5 minutes
Stretching 5 minutes

DAY 5 - Chest, Shoulders, Bi's, Tri's, Abs
Lower body warm-up on bike or treadmill for 5 min
Upper body warm-up with 2x10 Push-ups (I do 2 warm-up sets of bench presses)
Incline Bench Barbell 2x10x185
Upright Rows 2x10
Weighted Dips 2x10
Standing Tricep Pushdowns 2x10
or Seated Overhead Dumbell Tricep 2x10
Seated Incline Double Bicep Curls 2x10
Decline Leg Raises 2xMax Reps
Stretching 5 minutes

DAY 6 - Rest
Warmup 5 minutes
10 minute Ab workout
Stretching 5 minutes

Day 7 - Rest
30 minutes of Low Heartrate Cardio
Stretching 15 minutes


WEEK 2
Repeat Week 1 decreasing reps by 2 reps and increasing weights by 5%
DAY 1 - Chest, Shoulders, Bi's, Tri's, Abs
Flat Bench Barbell 2x8x210 (Sets x Reps x Weight)

 

[Royce]

I have 3 to 4 months. I want to start out with the drugs or the supplements now, I know I fucked up not learning about the dieting and nutrition. So I rely on drugs.

I always have. Since 7th grade I was smoking and selling weed, coc and all that. I realized what it has done to me and im looking into drugs that help my body out rather than destroy it.

 

[Royce]

And baller I appreciate the workout but as I said. I dont have a bike available etc. Mostly just weights and the occasional stop at the YMCA. If I get on some aas then Ill be visiting the Y regularly. As of now I am just working out at home. No partner is available.

 

[RADAR]

I have 3 to 4 months. I want to start out with the drugs or the supplements now, I know I fucked up not learning about the dieting and nutrition. So I rely on drugs.

I always have. Since 7th grade I was smoking and selling weed, coc and all that. I realized what it has done to me and im looking into drugs that help my body out rather than destroy it.

These drugs will destory you if not taken right, YOU DON"T HAVE A BASE ,THATS WHAT COUNTS<get in shape loose the fat,the weight you have is not sufficient and as you said you don't have the time.
it all boils down to diet 60% ,Training 30%,Gear 10%
And you havn't even begun to research or you would know this.
RADAR

 

[RADAR]

not to sound like the typical. I want to get rich fast guy....

But i mean. Id like to lean up real well real fast...so i guess im contradicting myself here.

I figure i want to get crazy jacked and lose my weight in a crazy, least amount of time possible. If that was the case, what stack would you find most viable for me? It seems to me the illegals are more appealing to me rather then the legal drugs.

rome wasn"t built in one day


RADAR

 

[RADAR]

And baller I appreciate the workout but as I said. I dont have a bike available etc. Mostly just weights and the occasional stop at the YMCA. If I get on some aas then Ill be visiting the Y regularly. As of now I am just working out at home. No partner is available.

And you don't just start working out regularly because you have some steroids, GEEZZZ I busted my ass for 15 yrs before i even touched the stuff. Learn to train & diet pay your dues for christ sake...there is no magic pill.

RADAR

 

[Royce]

Yeah i understand that. And its not that. Ive been stuck at this weight for so long. Ive been lifting every night and doing pushups everynight...doing cardio 3 times a week normally. My weight just wont drop. Its not that im fat.....Its just that Im not completely jacked. I have a decent upper chest but then the tips end up looking how can I say....Then end up looking like tits on the way down.

Im not fat...Just not stacked like all of you...

Edit: I take that paying my dues offensivly. Thats great and all that you had the time to workout.

The problem is my parents both fought against having me in court. I was forced to pay for all my food when I was in 6th grade and 7th grade. I Had to deal drugs to make my money. Ive seen some of my closest friends get shot. Ive done all I can to help everyone I know out. If someones in need I try to help them. I worked on a farm for 10 years of my life making the very food that you eat today.

Just because you worked out doesnt mean you paid your dues. I spent the time on other things that I had to do. Dont tell me your better than me because all you worried about was your body while I had real life problems....

Im not trying to be offensive. But its sad to hear you say that you had it so hard.

 

[RADAR]

Yeah i understand that. And its not that. Ive been stuck at this weight for so long. Ive been lifting every night and doing pushups everynight...doing cardio 3 times a week normally. My weight just wont drop. Its not that im fat.....Its just that Im not completely jacked. I have a decent upper chest but then the tips end up looking how can I say....Then end up looking like tits on the way down.

Im not fat...Just not stacked like all of you...

Edit: I take that paying my dues offensivly. Thats great and all that you had the time to workout.

The problem is my parents both fought against having me in court. I was forced to pay for all my food when I was in 6th grade and 7th grade. I Had to deal drugs to make my money. Ive seen some of my closest friends get shot. Ive done all I can to help everyone I know out. If someones in need I try to help them. I worked on a farm for 10 years of my life making the very food that you eat today.

Just because you worked out doesnt mean you paid your dues. I spent the time on other things that I had to do. Dont tell me your better than me because all you worried about was your body while I had real life problems....

Im not trying to be offensive. But its sad to hear you say that you had it so hard.

I'm not trying to be offensive,nor am i trying to do the pity plea,what i am trying to do is help you do this right and stay healthy at the same time.
I am a vet at this 58 Yrs so i'm sorry you have taken my comments the wrong way.
I laid out the above-the rest is up to you.In this thread members have given you Training advice,dieting etc.
Your post indicates you want to take the short cut....there is none.

 

[Royce]

There is no shortcut I understand. But Id rather get my maximum potential as of right now.

Basically from what your telling me is that Steroids wont increase my strength nor my appearance? Because from what I understood, and from many peoples standpoints, they do work for the better.

If you could suggest me some. What may they be? Its just a question mate.

Sorry for taking offense. Its just something that I must have taken wrongly.

 

[RADAR]

I sent you a pm.


RADAR