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Roidboyz

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Cycle Training Diet, Shorter Cycle More Gear?

Hey guys, Thinking of shortening cycle and upping doses.
Been on sus250 and deca200 alternating every four days so eight days between sus and eight days between deca. Also started fina two weeks ago 75 mg ed.
I am 6’ and weigh 225. 26%bf or so. (don’t flame me I know I’m fat).

The cycle was going to be 13weeks long as that is the number of sus redijects I had. I am down to eight and only have two amps of deca left.

Thinking of going to 500 mg sus ew and ending the cycle there. Along with finishing the deca and running the fina till the end for a total of six weeks.

I am a little disappointed with the gains. This is my second cycle. Strength is up and I have no sides at all. Running nolva and have clomid for pct.

Diet 6 meals per day

Meal one 4 egg whites I whole egg and ½ cup oat meal
Meal two myoplex add 25g whey
Meal three chicken breast and brown rice
Meal four myoplex and whey
Meal five chicken and brn rice and green vegetables
Meal six (bed time) glass of skim milk and 25 g whey


Work out

3days on one off
day one chest and triceps
day two legs
day three back shoulders and biceps
off
repeat
little to no cardio
I will try to lean out after my pct just wanna add as much as possible and keep it.

Started out at 229 and 29% bf.
 
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Didn't completly follow that one tbh. How long were you planning on shortening it to?

If its 8 or more weeks I personally wouldn't have a problem shortening the length. I think the only thing you have to consider really is that your blood levels will change what with a dosage change.

As for your training, I wouldn't personally wouldn't do back shoulders and biceps in one go but that's just me. I'm doing:

Chest
Legs
Back and shoulders
Arms

Might be worth looking at some other of the forums here, such as the diet one and the training one....just to get a few ideas.

Hope some of this is of help, good luck.
 
i don't know how much brown rice you are eating but to me it sounds like you are not getting in enough calories. you are stronger so you know your gear is working but i really do not think you are feeding the body enough food to really grow some muscle. a myoplex shake gets you about 300 cals, more if you mix it with milk and the 25 gms of protein you are adding is another 100. your diet is very clean and i know you desire to lose fat but when you are building, its very hard not to put on a little fat at the same time. since the gear seems to be making you stronger, try adding more calories for a couple weeks and see if that doesn't start you in the direction you want to go.
 
mphowells said:
Didn't completly follow that one tbh. How long were you planning on shortening it to?

If its 8 or more weeks I personally wouldn't have a problem shortening the length. I think the only thing you have to consider really is that your blood levels will change what with a dosage change.

As for your training, I wouldn't personally wouldn't do back shoulders and biceps in one go but that's just me. I'm doing:

Chest
Legs
Back and shoulders
Arms

Might be worth looking at some other of the forums here, such as the diet one and the training one....just to get a few ideas.

Hope some of this is of help, good luck.

Been on for five weeks. so that would give me a total of nine instead of thirteen. How worried should I be with the blood level changes? I just feel like I may be going too light with the juce. Thanks for the info.
On the training, do you take a day off or just start over?
 
tag said:
i don't know how much brown rice you are eating but to me it sounds like you are not getting in enough calories. you are stronger so you know your gear is working but i really do not think you are feeding the body enough food to really grow some muscle. a myoplex shake gets you about 300 cals, more if you mix it with milk and the 25 gms of protein you are adding is another 100. your diet is very clean and i know you desire to lose fat but when you are building, its very hard not to put on a little fat at the same time. since the gear seems to be making you stronger, try adding more calories for a couple weeks and see if that doesn't start you in the direction you want to go.

You are probably on track with upping the calories. I really havn't added them up to see a total.That may be the bulk of the problem.
As for the juce it's just hard to read all these posts and see all these heavier cycles and not thing that I might be cheating myself by doing low doses over a longer peroid of time. Thanks for the advice I will add some cals, any advice on how much more opr where they should come from?
 
Roidboyz said:
Been on for five weeks. so that would give me a total of nine instead of thirteen. How worried should I be with the blood level changes? I just feel like I may be going too light with the juce. Thanks for the info.
On the training, do you take a day off or just start over?

No I always have at least one day off in there somewhere but it varies depending on work commitments but I try and do it on a day when my muscles NEED rest.

As far as calorie intake goes, a lot of people have theories of add so many caloris to so much body weight but since I dont know ther formulas I wont pretend I do. All I suggest is since your building eat as much as you can and then eat some more.
 
Roidboyz said:
You are probably on track with upping the calories. I really havn't added them up to see a total.That may be the bulk of the problem.
As for the juce it's just hard to read all these posts and see all these heavier cycles and not thing that I might be cheating myself by doing low doses over a longer peroid of time. Thanks for the advice I will add some cals, any advice on how much more opr where they should come from?


i read something really long and complicated once, can't remember where i found it but its the kind of info you can get a thousand places. started off with telling you to figure out your bmr, or basal metabolic rate. thats how many calories your body needs just to live and breathe everyday. you then factor in your activity level, how thorough you want to be is up to you but you can pretty much figure out what everything you do costs you calorie wise and then figure out what extra you are gonna have left over. the left over calories are where you gain your weight from. if you add it all up and realize that you are just eating enough to get by, you'll know. i don't remember how much gear you were using but i remember you saying that you were about 25% bf. i'm replying through my email notification so i can't see the original post now and the gf is ready to go for her boatride and i'm rushing. its really hard to try and get 2 things done at once, that is, hard to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time as the calorie restiction you need to lose the fat is a death sentence for your new muscle. far easier to get a little fatter and then lose it. i don't remember what you were using but you should probably have some test in there. i stay away from sust but prefer a single estered test like cyp or enanth at about 500 a week. use it with eq at 4-600, primo at 4-600 or, if you don't mind frequent injections some npp. i stay away from deca because i never like to mix two aas that aromatize from different directions. if you have problems you could stop the npp and take nolva for the test and still be able to rock and roll.
 
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