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I'm 6' 246 lbs. and my bf is around 15%. I would like to have my bf% around 10% by May 07', but I want to keep my weight around 225 lbs. I am 30 yrs. old and have been working out for about 13 yrs. off and on, so I have a lot of mature muscle. I've done 2 cycles, the latest one consisted of test-e @ 500 ew 1-12 with d-bol @ 50 ed 1-4. Currently on pct. Anyone have any suggestions on a good diet to help me obtain my goals?

current diet

6:30 am 50g protien shake & 1 cup oatmeal
9 am two 4 egg omletts
11 am can of tuna, 10 oz green beans, 6 boiled egg whites, 10 oz red potatoes
1:30 pm 50g protein shake & 1 cup oatmeal
4 pm 12 oz chicken breast or lean hambuger, 9oz gb, 10 oz red potatoes or brown rice
5:30pm protein shake
6pm workout
7:30pm protein shake, 6 eggs
9:30 can of tuna,natural pb
10pm bed

I drink around 2 gallons of water ed
 
That Sounds Good To Me, I Really Dont See Why This Wouldn't Be A Good Diet For Your Goals, Although You Might Want To Ask Someone Like Mr. X Or Someone Else With Alot Of Diet Knowledge. I Would Think Its Good Though. My .02
 
Recruit said:
I'm 6' 246 lbs. and my bf is around 15%. I would like to have my bf% around 10% by May 07', but I want to keep my weight around 225 lbs. I am 30 yrs. old and have been working out for about 13 yrs. off and on, so I have a lot of mature muscle. I've done 2 cycles, the latest one consisted of test-e @ 500 ew 1-12 with d-bol @ 50 ed 1-4. Currently on pct. Anyone have any suggestions on a good diet to help me obtain my goals?

current diet

6:30 am 50g protien shake & 1 cup oatmeal
9 am two 4 egg omletts
11 am can of tuna, 10 oz green beans, 6 boiled egg whites, 10 oz red potatoes
1:30 pm 50g protein shake & 1 cup oatmeal
4 pm 12 oz chicken breast or lean hambuger, 9oz gb, 10 oz red potatoes or brown rice
5:30pm protein shake
6pm workout
7:30pm protein shake, 6 eggs
9:30 can of tuna,natural pb
10pm bed

I drink around 2 gallons of water ed

How long have you been on this diet? What results have you gotten so far with it? When I'm cutting, the only significant carbs I have are first thing in the morning (typically oatmeal or a banana if I'm in a hurry) and post-workout (dextrose / maltodextrin)... otherwise, it's mostly protein (chicken, turkey, fish), fats (almonds, pumpkin/sunflower seeds, ANPB), and lots of veggies (particularly green-leaf)... I would get rid of the red potatoes... if you MUST have some sort of starch, go for sweet potatoe or brown rice instead.... your dinner should be a little more substantial than a can of tuna and PB... try chicken/turkey with steamed veggies... also have a shake before bed... I usually mix in some flax oil or olive oil. Good luck!
 
njmuscleguy said:
How long have you been on this diet? What results have you gotten so far with it? When I'm cutting, the only significant carbs I have are first thing in the morning (typically oatmeal or a banana if I'm in a hurry) and post-workout (dextrose / maltodextrin)... otherwise, it's mostly protein (chicken, turkey, fish), fats (almonds, pumpkin/sunflower seeds, ANPB), and lots of veggies (particularly green-leaf)... I would get rid of the red potatoes... if you MUST have some sort of starch, go for sweet potatoe or brown rice instead.... your dinner should be a little more substantial than a can of tuna and PB... try chicken/turkey with steamed veggies... also have a shake before bed... I usually mix in some flax oil or olive oil. Good luck!


My thoughts exactly NJ.

Heres an example of my diet as it stands right now.


4:30am
small portion of Tuna Salad
50g whey protein
1 tbsp flax oil

7:00
1/3 cup oats
50mg whey

9:00
50mg whey

12:00pm
Chicken Breast
50g whey

2:00pm
50g whey
1tbsp MTC Oil

4:30
PWO Shake 50g whey, 1/3 cup of dextrose

6:00pm
Dinner (wife controls this one, but we do well. Either chicken breasts, or some form of beef, with plenty of veggies, brown rice and most times a sweet potatoe)

8:00
1/3 cup whey protein.


If I get hungry during the day, I will eat an ANPB sandwich, or some egg whites.
 
immortalis said:
My thoughts exactly NJ.

Heres an example of my diet as it stands right now.


4:30am
small portion of Tuna Salad
50g whey protein
1 tbsp flax oil

7:00
1/3 cup oats
50mg whey

9:00
50mg whey

12:00pm
Chicken Breast
50g whey

2:00pm
50g whey
1tbsp MTC Oil

4:30
PWO Shake 50g whey, 1/3 cup of dextrose

6:00pm
Dinner (wife controls this one, but we do well. Either chicken breasts, or some form of beef, with plenty of veggies, brown rice and most times a sweet potatoe)

8:00
1/3 cup whey protein.


If I get hungry during the day, I will eat an ANPB sandwich, or some egg whites.


Wow, I thought *I* took in alot of whey protein - holy cow!

I do have a question about the flax oil though... curious as to why you have it first thing in the morning as opposed to say, with your protein shake before bed (that's how I do it)... my reasoning is that when you wake up, you want to nourish your body quickly (because it's in catabolic state)... fats slow down digestion... however, at bed-time, you want to eat something that your body can use over a long period of time, which is why it's a good idea to have fats (flax, peanut butter) and slow-digesting protein (casein for example)... so I'd like to hear your reasoning...maybe I'm doing something wrong
 
njmuscleguy said:
Wow, I thought *I* took in alot of whey protein - holy cow!

I do have a question about the flax oil though... curious as to why you have it first thing in the morning as opposed to say, with your protein shake before bed (that's how I do it)... my reasoning is that when you wake up, you want to nourish your body quickly (because it's in catabolic state)... fats slow down digestion... however, at bed-time, you want to eat something that your body can use over a long period of time, which is why it's a good idea to have fats (flax, peanut butter) and slow-digesting protein (casein for example)... so I'd like to hear your reasoning...maybe I'm doing something wrong


Dont get me wrong... I miss a few shakes here and there hehe. I try to keep it up there tho.

Mr X actually helped me put this diet together, and he suggested that I take the Flax Oil in the morning so thats what I've gone with. So I dont have any "reasoning" behind it, other than the fact that a way more experienced person in regards to overall diet and nutrition said to do it that way.

Maybe he will pop his head in here and help this guy out a lil, and maybe shed some light on why he had me go with Flax in the morning.
 
immortalis said:
Dont get me wrong... I miss a few shakes here and there hehe. I try to keep it up there tho.

Mr X actually helped me put this diet together, and he suggested that I take the Flax Oil in the morning so thats what I've gone with. So I dont have any "reasoning" behind it, other than the fact that a way more experienced person in regards to overall diet and nutrition said to do it that way.

Maybe he will pop his head in here and help this guy out a lil, and maybe shed some light on why he had me go with Flax in the morning.


Hmm, I definitely want to hear his reasoning for this
 
Start by writing down everything you eat for 1 week. Add all of the calories together and divide by 7. This will be your average intake. Your lean body mass is right around 210 lbs. Try getting @ 210-220 grams of protein per day. Or 1-1.2 grams per pound of lean body mass.

A bit of conversions for you : 1 gram of protein = 4 calories, 1 gram of carbs = 4 calories, 1 gram of fat = 9 calories, and 1 gram of alcohol = 7 calories.

Try starting like this : 40 % calories from protein, 30 % from carbs, and 30% from fat. Break the meals up into 5-6 meals per day. Try getting your bulk of calories from good, lean foods (chicken breast, tuna, oatmeal, egg whites etc....). To keep from loosing too much muscle shoot for a weight loss of no more than 2 lbs per week.


I'm sure some of the other fellas will have more ideas for you...but, we are all here to help.
 
njmuscleguy said:
How long have you been on this diet? What results have you gotten so far with it? When I'm cutting, the only significant carbs I have are first thing in the morning (typically oatmeal or a banana if I'm in a hurry) and post-workout (dextrose / maltodextrin)... otherwise, it's mostly protein (chicken, turkey, fish), fats (almonds, pumpkin/sunflower seeds, ANPB), and lots of veggies (particularly green-leaf)... I would get rid of the red potatoes... if you MUST have some sort of starch, go for sweet potatoe or brown rice instead.... your dinner should be a little more substantial than a can of tuna and PB... try chicken/turkey with steamed veggies... also have a shake before bed... I usually mix in some flax oil or olive oil. Good luck!
I started this diet a month before my cycle, which I just came off of. I gained 11 lbs. and lost 6% bf from 21 down to 15. Just hought I should up the carbs a little and keep hitting the weights hard if I want to still be over 225 lbs next summer. Planning to do one more cycle before then.
 
Also, it'd be a good idea to know your BMR (basal metabolic rate), or calories required for "maintenance"

Do a look-up online or try: http://www.hussmanfitness.org/bmrcalc.htm

The BMR will help you determine how to structure your diet (calories-wise)
 
immortalis said:
Dont get me wrong... I miss a few shakes here and there hehe. I try to keep it up there tho.

Mr X actually helped me put this diet together, and he suggested that I take the Flax Oil in the morning so thats what I've gone with. So I dont have any "reasoning" behind it, other than the fact that a way more experienced person in regards to overall diet and nutrition said to do it that way.

Maybe he will pop his head in here and help this guy out a lil, and maybe shed some light on why he had me go with Flax in the morning.
If I add fat to a persons diet it is usually to slow down absorbtion of protein or carbs. Pure whey is actually fairly high on the glycemic index (yes it applies to protiens..it has to...fats too.) so the flax would slow down the absorbtion of the whey as tuna has no fat to speak of either.

Quad
 
I began growing like grass when i quit relying on protein drinks so much. I still drink 2 a day, but i eat more food now.
 
this is an interesting diet:

Cutting diet I wanted to share (tha crumb cake: original Author)
This is a Strict Diet for 8 weeks. No CHEAT days, None. 56 days Straight. If you can't deal with it, then this isn't for you. If you can hang, The results will be Phenomenal.

This is a Diet for someone who is in Shape, but just needs to lose those LAST few pounds of Stubborn fat.

This diet will work ESPECIALLY for those with excess Fat in the lower abs, thighs, lower back area.

Diet Guidelines:

Avoid All starches, You don't need them if your goal is to get down to 4-7 ****ing Percent BodyFat.

1. Eat Tons of Green Veggies (Fiber)

2. Eat Lots of Healthy Fats ex. Steak, Flax Oil, E.v. OliveOil, Salmon, Fish Oils, etc. (Energy)

3. Eat TONS of Protein (Preserve Muscles)

4. DRINK 1 1/2 gallons of H20 a day AT LEAST.

Avoid ALL fruit drinks, Juices, rice, breads.

Eat carbos ONLY after a grueling Glycogen depleting workout.

You will have Tons of energy from the Healthy Fats,
Good digestion from the Fiber,
and great Muscle Hardness and Protection from the Protein.

Healthy Fats = Energy
Protein = Muscle Hardness, Muscle Protection
Fiber = Digestion, and various other health Benefits.


Healthy Fats, Lots of Fiber, And TONS of Protein. That's the key.

Not only will you DROP bodyfat while maintaing Muscle, but you will ALSO have an abundance of energy and your skin (complexion) will be looking great as well.

Example of a Day...

1. 3 servings of Whey/ 1 tablespoon of Flax Oil
2. 8 - 10oz London Broil Steak (Extra Lean)/ 1-2 cups Green Veggies.
3. Grilled Salmon/ 1-2 cups Green Veggies.
4. 3 servings of Whey/ 1 tablespoon of Flax Oil
5. 2 Cans of Tuna/ Chopped Onions/Celery/ 1 tablespoon of Safflower Mayonaise.
6. (Post Workout) MRP or 2 servings of Whey/10oz Orange Juice.
7. 8-10oz Extra Lean Steak/ 2 cups Veggies.

Breaks Down to about:
Protein 1.5 - 2 grams per lb of Bodyweight
Fat .5 - .75grams per lb of Bodyweight
Carbs (only post workout) 30-50 grams
Fiber in the form of Green Veggies - As much as Possible.

Supplements:

Do NOT take ANY FAT BURNERS...why? They will Surpress your appetite TOO much, You need to eat every 2 hours. If you take a fat burner you won't be up to it.

1 Multivitamin
Extra Zinc 30 - 50mgs
Fish Oil Caps
Flax Oil Liquid
200mcg Selenium
800mgs Folic Acid
800iu Vitamin E
2grams Vitamin C

WORKOUTS:

Staying ACTIVE!! is the KEY. ALWAYSSSS stay Active.

Lift 4 times a Week. Alternate Between Heavy Low Rep workouts, and High repetition Moderate Weight Workouts.

Cardio, 4-7 days a week, Alernate Between 20 min High Intensity (Jump Ropes, Sprints) and Low intensity for 45min - 1hour (Walking, Light Jogging, Jumping Jacks (lol) )



This DIET is NOT easy by Anymeans, It takes proper planning a day ahead of time. (You have to have the Steaks/ Veggies/ Chicken/ Salmon, Thawed out Before cooking them, Put stuff in Tupper Ware..you Just have to be Prepared.)
Be prepared to Go through at LEAST 1lb of lean Steak a day, and 10 servings of Whey Powder a day and TONS of Green Veggies a day. Be prepared to be going grocery shopping at least twice a week.

Like I said ths diet is not easy, But oh well, No one said this game is Easy.

But Remember if you can stick through it for 8 Grueling weeks, You'll be Satified at the End with your Amazing Results.

Good Luck.

p.s. NEVER mix Fat and Carbs at the Same meal.

Peace,

Crumcake.
.
 
OMEGA said:
this is an interesting diet:

Cutting diet I wanted to share (tha crumb cake: original Author)
This is a Strict Diet for 8 weeks. No CHEAT days, None. 56 days Straight. If you can't deal with it, then this isn't for you. If you can hang, The results will be Phenomenal.

This is a Diet for someone who is in Shape, but just needs to lose those LAST few pounds of Stubborn fat.

This diet will work ESPECIALLY for those with excess Fat in the lower abs, thighs, lower back area.

Diet Guidelines:

Avoid All starches, You don't need them if your goal is to get down to 4-7 ****ing Percent BodyFat.

1. Eat Tons of Green Veggies (Fiber)

2. Eat Lots of Healthy Fats ex. Steak, Flax Oil, E.v. OliveOil, Salmon, Fish Oils, etc. (Energy)

3. Eat TONS of Protein (Preserve Muscles)

4. DRINK 1 1/2 gallons of H20 a day AT LEAST.

Avoid ALL fruit drinks, Juices, rice, breads.

Eat carbos ONLY after a grueling Glycogen depleting workout.

You will have Tons of energy from the Healthy Fats,
Good digestion from the Fiber,
and great Muscle Hardness and Protection from the Protein.

Healthy Fats = Energy
Protein = Muscle Hardness, Muscle Protection
Fiber = Digestion, and various other health Benefits.


Healthy Fats, Lots of Fiber, And TONS of Protein. That's the key.

Not only will you DROP bodyfat while maintaing Muscle, but you will ALSO have an abundance of energy and your skin (complexion) will be looking great as well.

Example of a Day...

1. 3 servings of Whey/ 1 tablespoon of Flax Oil
2. 8 - 10oz London Broil Steak (Extra Lean)/ 1-2 cups Green Veggies.
3. Grilled Salmon/ 1-2 cups Green Veggies.
4. 3 servings of Whey/ 1 tablespoon of Flax Oil
5. 2 Cans of Tuna/ Chopped Onions/Celery/ 1 tablespoon of Safflower Mayonaise.
6. (Post Workout) MRP or 2 servings of Whey/10oz Orange Juice.
7. 8-10oz Extra Lean Steak/ 2 cups Veggies.

Breaks Down to about:
Protein 1.5 - 2 grams per lb of Bodyweight
Fat .5 - .75grams per lb of Bodyweight
Carbs (only post workout) 30-50 grams
Fiber in the form of Green Veggies - As much as Possible.

Supplements:

Do NOT take ANY FAT BURNERS...why? They will Surpress your appetite TOO much, You need to eat every 2 hours. If you take a fat burner you won't be up to it.

1 Multivitamin
Extra Zinc 30 - 50mgs
Fish Oil Caps
Flax Oil Liquid
200mcg Selenium
800mgs Folic Acid
800iu Vitamin E
2grams Vitamin C

WORKOUTS:

Staying ACTIVE!! is the KEY. ALWAYSSSS stay Active.

Lift 4 times a Week. Alternate Between Heavy Low Rep workouts, and High repetition Moderate Weight Workouts.

Cardio, 4-7 days a week, Alernate Between 20 min High Intensity (Jump Ropes, Sprints) and Low intensity for 45min - 1hour (Walking, Light Jogging, Jumping Jacks (lol) )



This DIET is NOT easy by Anymeans, It takes proper planning a day ahead of time. (You have to have the Steaks/ Veggies/ Chicken/ Salmon, Thawed out Before cooking them, Put stuff in Tupper Ware..you Just have to be Prepared.)
Be prepared to Go through at LEAST 1lb of lean Steak a day, and 10 servings of Whey Powder a day and TONS of Green Veggies a day. Be prepared to be going grocery shopping at least twice a week.

Like I said ths diet is not easy, But oh well, No one said this game is Easy.

But Remember if you can stick through it for 8 Grueling weeks, You'll be Satified at the End with your Amazing Results.

Good Luck.

p.s. NEVER mix Fat and Carbs at the Same meal.

Peace,

Crumcake.
.
This will be a great diet when summer starts getting close...maybe it will help me get rid of that stubborn fat in my lower ab area...
 
Try reading BODYOPUS by Dan Duchaine (spelling?) The diet in that book is insane and works awesome! It isn't a diet for the weak willed.
 
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