Nautica - Question for NCAA drug testing

[Stonewall5920]

Thank you Nautica! I will be waiting for your next response on what to exactly do. I cant thank you enough!

 

[nautica]

Well, I am still thinking about this one - I have never been asked by some one to help them get there ratios up.

Let me think out loud and any suggestions would be appreciated.

1) You could use the alcohol excuse for raising the levels. But I have seen the equation used and it is based on decreased levels of eptitesterone - exponentially increasing your ratios.

If you give them that excuse then the first thing they will do is test your epitest levels once again and the numbers will not work out.

2) You could use suspension - which will be an estimated guess at best - but even if you do get the ratios back in line - that will not account for the spike in the finger print of your original results.

Nautica

 

[Stonewall5920]

But if i give the alcohol excuse and the epitest didnt match up, couldnt i just say that the urine was diluted and that was for the low actual amount of epitest. If they bring up ph levels (to figure out what it should be) and the such then i would say that it must of been the different vitamins i was taking or maybe what i had ate, is the reason why the specific gravity and ph levels were different. I am guessing that if i just bring up my test levels to at least 4:1 then i could possibly get away using the alcohol excuse! If it is 4:1 then i would say that the alcohol affected me very much (studies show it could change ratios up to 350% or something like that, ill look it up again) but if i get a 12:1 then i could say that alcohol also has been shown to increase ratios by 30% (in the study it was something like 30-350% change!).
Also, the article that i have says that it changes both: Test gets higher and epi gets lower, so it works both ways.
Right now i am thinking about taking 5 mg of test suspension an hour before the test, but it is just a wild guess and i would much rather you guess it for me.

 

[nautica]

Well, it still goes back to the orginal problem of the fact that they should still have the computer printout of the last results. Then they will try to figure out what was in your system that spiked the graph. That is what worries me.

Nautica

 

[Stonewall5920]

i see but if i have to go to court or during my appeal i would bring up the fact that a positive drug test is only if levels of 6:1 are observed, according to what the NCAA states (they do not say anything else, you even brought this up). Then i would say drinking alcohol made me fail and i lost my "protection" of contaminated supplements, when i ingested the alcohol. I would then say someone subjected to drug testing should be told this. How bout that?

 

[Bulk32]

that is a idea, but don't you think an orginization like the NCAA would have thought of that and included something blocking that excuse somewhere in their "small print"

Good luck bro, keep us updated

 

[Stonewall5920]

Nautica, so how much test suspension do you think that i should take right before the test? Right now i plan on doing 5 mg right before the test. This sound good to you? I know that you dont know for sure but what do you think? I am just trying to get my levels to an above normal range so then i could have the luxery of using the alcohol excuse. Thanks

 

[Stonewall5920]

Bump for Nautica. Test should be coming up within a few days

 

[REDMACHINE]

Nautica-

Do you have a list of the 10 AAS NCAA tests for?

Tren metabolites are 4mos, right?

Is there any way to speed up his metabolism to clear the metabolites, T3, clen, DNP?

Red

 

[nautica]

Yes, anything that increases metabolism will help clear metabolites - but the time frame he is talking about - it would seem to be almost impossible. (I have used DNP before it is help me pass drug test - but everyone seems to be different and his main concern right now appears to be his T/E ratio.

Nautica