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natural test booster?
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xariesj2x said:
There's only one that's "best" and it's this; http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=109&cat=0&page=1
xrsist said:
I believe it to be true. If there were something better, I would have put it in there.
Ralph_Wiggum
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Tribex Gold is the best IMO.
I got the best gains off of Tribex Gold. I have tried a different Tribulus supplement and Vitamin World's Avena Sativa complex supplement (which works similar to Tribulus), which was so-so, but not as good as Tribex.
You may want to take I3C/Dim as well. If I were you, I would give Life Extension a call (find their number at Lef.org) and tell them that you are taking a tribulus supplement and want to know how much of their DIM/I3C supplement to take.
I got the best gains off of Tribex Gold. I have tried a different Tribulus supplement and Vitamin World's Avena Sativa complex supplement (which works similar to Tribulus), which was so-so, but not as good as Tribex.
You may want to take I3C/Dim as well. If I were you, I would give Life Extension a call (find their number at Lef.org) and tell them that you are taking a tribulus supplement and want to know how much of their DIM/I3C supplement to take.
Avena sativa is not the same as avenacosides.
I could have easily put Trib in UNLEASHED but left it out simply for the fact it isn't nearly as effective as avenacosides.
DIM is a mild estrogen so it MAY have a "receptor docking" affinity somewhat like clomid. Or, as is also the case with clomid, it may just add more estrogen.
I could have easily put Trib in UNLEASHED but left it out simply for the fact it isn't nearly as effective as avenacosides.
DIM is a mild estrogen so it MAY have a "receptor docking" affinity somewhat like clomid. Or, as is also the case with clomid, it may just add more estrogen.
Ralph_Wiggum
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DIM has been recommended to me by a natural medicine doctor whom I trust. I haven't read up on the specific mechanism of how it works, but I trust his word and the many studies that back it up. Life Extension not only recommends it, but they recommend/offer blood tests as well to see its effectiveness...no placebo there. That is a route I trust more than just searching bodybuilding.com for an estrogen control supplement and hoping it is working.
At the end of the day, it is YOUR body, and I don't want to recommend anything that could harm another person due to my advice. I feel the safest bet would be to call Life Extension, do a blood test (like Life Extension's male blood panel), and take the supplementation they recommend.
At the end of the day, it is YOUR body, and I don't want to recommend anything that could harm another person due to my advice. I feel the safest bet would be to call Life Extension, do a blood test (like Life Extension's male blood panel), and take the supplementation they recommend.
Ralph_Wiggum said:
I never said DIM was placebo. It's been shown to increase 2hydroxy and 2 metoxy estrones, which are considered the "good" estrogens. Calcium D Glucerate (also recommened by Life Extension) LOWERS estrogen but leaves the 2hydoxy and 2methoxys. Chrysin (also recommended by Life Extention) will lower overall estrogen when combined with Bioperine (also recommended by Life Extension). All of these ingredients are included in "POST-CYCLE" from www.proteinfactory.com
Life Extension does some good stuff but I can't say I'm in total agreement with them all the time , nor are they recogmized by the AMA. They're an"alternative" treatment organization who sell products -- lots of good and well researched products, but they're a business nonetheless.
Ralph_Wiggum
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Nelson Montana said:
I agree. They do sell product, so you have to get you have to keep that in mind.
I think the Post-Cycle is a good product from what is listed in the description.
Dodder See Extract (Cuscuta), Horny Goat Weed (Epimedium), and Catuaba extract mixed up in a citrus based drink (for taste) works extremely well.
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madcow2007
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doublebicep said:
where do you get that stuff from? Can you buy it in bulk?
madcow2007 said:
Bulk yes.
http://www.beyond-a-century.com/
I have been using them for 2+ years. Great products and customer service.
I'm a n00b, so I do have a weird question. Are there any bad side effects if you discontinue the use of test enhancers? Like maybe getting fat after you stop taking them? Or your sex drive lower? Just curious, I am still a noob when it come to this stuff, so someone please inform me. Thanks.
madcow2007 said:
None of those ingredients increase testosterone. They may have an effect on libido or fertility. UNLEASHEDalso increases libido but by way of increasing Free Testosterone
Using UNLEASHED will not lower T levels once you stop. They'll just go back to where they were before using it.
Ralph_Wiggum
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doublebicep said:
Thanks for the link. I love what I see on there. Quick question: how do they package their supps? Is it like the earlier days of Proteinfactory where they just gave it to you in a bag w/o a label?
gurusevuppal
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oi bro, all these idiots are jus selling their shity stuff!! i think jus go for zma and tribulus. try dymatize z-force if you wanna
gurusevuppal said:oi bro, all these idiots are jus selling their shity stuff!! i think jus go for zma and tribulus. try dymatize z-force if you wanna
ZMA?!?!? Dude, the 90's are over.
gurusevuppal said:oi bro, all these idiots are jus selling their shity stuff!! i think jus go for zma and tribulus. try dymatize z-force if you wanna
I am not selling anything and do not appreciate being called an idiot.
You are welcome. Vitamin like contianers. Professional. Most products have a view of it on their site. Another you might want to add to your regime is Avena Sativa.
Horny Goat Weed sure seems to increase test for me.
"Horny Goat Weed has testosterone-like effects. It increases sperm production, stimulates the sensory nerves, and increases sexual desire. Horny Goat Weed contains a compound known as lcariin that helps stimulate the nerves throughout the body, mostly in the genital area. It also has anti-fatigue effects which may account for the surge in energy that one might feel. Research found that it protects the adrenals from exhaution."
Again, it works great for me. Some acne but it is worth it.
In some cases isn't an increase in libido due to an increase in test levels?
Just something to think about.
Horny Goat Weed sure seems to increase test for me.
"Horny Goat Weed has testosterone-like effects. It increases sperm production, stimulates the sensory nerves, and increases sexual desire. Horny Goat Weed contains a compound known as lcariin that helps stimulate the nerves throughout the body, mostly in the genital area. It also has anti-fatigue effects which may account for the surge in energy that one might feel. Research found that it protects the adrenals from exhaution."
Again, it works great for me. Some acne but it is worth it.
In some cases isn't an increase in libido due to an increase in test levels?
Just something to think about.[/QUOTE]
It's a factor but not the sole one. You can have moderate T and have a good libido and have a high T level and have a low libido.
Yes, HGW does seem to have some sensory effect on the genitals. I don;t think it's bad. (It's included in POST-CYCLE). But it won't effect hormones or muscle growth in any way.
"Horny Goat Weed has testosterone-like effects. It increases sperm production, stimulates the sensory nerves, and increases sexual desire. Horny Goat Weed contains a compound known as lcariin that helps stimulate the nerves throughout the body, mostly in the genital area. It also has anti-fatigue effects which may account for the surge in energy that one might feel. Research found that it protects the adrenals from exhaution."
Again, it works great for me. Some acne but it is worth it.
In some cases isn't an increase in libido due to an increase in test levels?
Just something to think about.[/QUOTE]
It's a factor but not the sole one. You can have moderate T and have a good libido and have a high T level and have a low libido.
Yes, HGW does seem to have some sensory effect on the genitals. I don;t think it's bad. (It's included in POST-CYCLE). But it won't effect hormones or muscle growth in any way.
