Nandrolone?

[Jack steel]

With all the other AAS out there is it really that special? I've never used it because its never sounded very interesting/any better than the other popular favorites. Is it worth trying out?

Anything special when compared to other popular compounds?

AAS I have experience with:
Test
EQ
tren
Masteron
Dbol
Winstrol
Various PHs

 

[rustilldown]

NPP is pretty good in my opinion . Never used deca

 

[bonacris]

I've only run deca but it wasnt anything special.. had a general good feeling when on it and was horny a lot but its gains were very wet and I got quite bloated.. im trying to get NPP to run next month

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[TheSVPdeal]

MHN is a nandrolone and is excellent!

 

[RADAR]

I would give NNP and Masteron a try ,excellent combo.

 

[Mh48500]

I prefer Tren over Deca personally, but I dont think your really missing out. I have become a true fan of Dbol lately.

 

[MattJS]

I'm with Radar, it's a better mass builder than anything else I've used, which includes everything in your list...

 

[northernknight]

I really like all 19nors, I'm lucky enough to avoid almoust all sides from Nandrolone, and Trenbolone. Especially when stacked with DHT like Masteron, as mentioned above.
IMHO Deca is great for lean bulk, and NPP is even better option.

 

[Jack steel]

I'm with Radar, it's a better mass builder than anything else I've used, which includes everything in your list...

You like it better than tren for mass?

 

[PHGHI]

TestP, NPP and PrimoA worked as the best combo for me. You get the lean bulk with NPP with the finish of PrimoA. Like Radar said above NPP with a DHT compound works great.

 

[RickRock13]

NPP was just so so for me....but after running Tren (which was fucking amazing) I see no reason I will ever run it again.

 

[MattJS]

Yes I felt nandrolone gave me more mass than tren, I had to eat an insane amount of food to get the best of it, this could be why some don't rate it, I was hitting well over 7k some days...

 

[Jack steel]

Yes I felt nandrolone gave me more mass than tren, I had to eat an insane amount of food to get the best of it, this could be why some don't rate it, I was hitting well over 7k some days...

Interesting. Would you say you are more on the NPP cycle than one your tren cycle ya think?

 

[Jack steel]

NPP was just so so for me....but after running Tren (which was fucking amazing) I see no reason I will ever run it again.

Even though some people will scoff at having trenbolone as your "go-to guy" for mass, it's no mystery that tren's effects are drastically different than other steroids even though the sides are worse and is pretty harsh. It's more anabolic on paper and in most users' experiences than any other steroid. I really want to include it but ill have to see based on how my life goes this winter. With a job and 2 babies I don't want to be feeling less than parr.
That being said I will not use the masteron (was going to use it with tren to alleviate sides) I will use the EQ and most likely a low test dose. So lets say this so far:
1-12 Test e -375mg ew
1-12 (600mg front loaded week 1) 300mg ew thereafter
Now I'm looking at maybe adding superdrol or epistane or another good mass oral to kick off with.
If YOU have used anadrol, How bad are sides from your experience?

 

[northernknight]

If YOU have used anadrol, How bad are sides from your experience?

Bad... Real bad in my recent experience. Really not worth it IMHO. I just ran it for two weeks and decided to switch to Dbol. After bumping dose to 100 ED sides began to interfere with training and everyday life way too much... Of course everyone will react differently, but I'm not new to AAS sides. Just to compare, for me Adrol was way worse than any of my runs with Tren. I'm also pretty disappointed with results, I was purely after some strength gains, and it seems that I would have had to increase the dose at least to 150 ED, and maybe beyond for the bombs to really make an impact.



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[joeblow12345]

Why decide between npp and tren? I say use both together with mast and a little prop. The only thing better then one nandrolone in a stack is two together. You get a big increase in lean mass and strength, a drastic reduction in bf, along with crazy vascularity and hardness. Then the mast adds an additional level of hardening. As long as you keep the prop dose low there are no issues with Ed issues or any other sides that would cause discomfort. Just stay on top of your estrogen control with your ai, and health with n2guard. You could also throw in any orals you wanted as bloating won't be an issue.

 

[joeblow12345]

Bad... Real bad in my recent experience. Really not worth it IMHO. I just ran it for two weeks and decided to switch to Dbol. After bumping dose to 100 ED sides began to interfere with training and everyday life way too much... Of course everyone will react differently, but I'm not new to AAS sides. Just to compare, for me Adrol was way worse than any of my runs with Tren. I'm also pretty disappointed with results, I was purely after some strength gains, and it seems that I would have had to increase the dose at least to 150 ED, and maybe beyond for the bombs to really make an impact.



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Bro either you had some weak anadrol or your just unlucky. I get strong as fuck from anadrol, and sides are minimal for me. But I do love some dbol as well and I like the fact that less dbol goes a long way. With Anadrol you wanna run at least 75-100 mg day min. With dbol 40-50 mg would achieve the same results so that makes more financial sense.

 

[MattJS]

I hated anadrol,it made me feel like shit and apart from extra aggression I got no obvious benefit from taking it, I've eaten equally heavily on tren and I feel NPP has the edge where mass is concerned...

 

[northernknight]

Bro either you had some weak anadrol or your just unlucky. I get strong as fuck from anadrol, and sides are minimal for me. But I do love some dbol as well and I like the fact that less dbol goes a long way. With Anadrol you wanna run at least 75-100 mg day min. With dbol 40-50 mg would achieve the same results so that makes more financial sense.

I'm probably just unlucky, and don't get along with Adrol... Sides fit the profile i.e. nausea, stomach pain, lethargy, sweating (worse than on Tren!), headaches, and bloating like a balloon (even with several different diuretics & AI). Lately it also killed my appetite. No blood pressure issues though, I've actually had surprisingly low BP lately.

Then again don't get much sides from Tren, so I consider it a fair trade, lol! Even with Methyl-Tren only problem was with liver values, I didn't fully understand at the time what I was taking (it was quite long time ago), so with taking something like TUDCA I believe that I would be fine with it.

I think that the strength gains would have been there with Adrol, just couldn't concentrate on training with enough effort once sides really hit me. Dbol, and actually every single AAS that I have taken before, which includes pretty much every oil/injectable, never been that big fan of orals (Though I got really interested a while ago on Halo & Tbol, so I'm researching them, and other options atm.), have always treated me well, and I was a bit surprised how strong sides I got from Adrol. I agree with minimum dose of 75-100 mgs, 50 mgs didn't really do much. I will probably have a second run with it at some point, I'm a bit too hard headed to give up with first try, lol!

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[C0LUMB0]

Drol makes me feel like shit!!! i had a good run with it on one cycle when i was using genuine androlic, strength was insane...but ever since then i have felt sick as fuck and very lethargic on it... kills my appetite too.

as for nandrolones ,well i swore i was finished with deca after my last run but my next cycle i will give it one more dance.
I will be stacking it with TRen , OMG thats two 19nors !!! .

anywho,for anybody interested - i will post up the full cycle in another thread .

for anybody not interested -

 

[northernknight]

I hated anadrol,it made me feel like shit and apart from extra aggression I got no obvious benefit from taking it, I've eaten equally heavily on tren and I feel NPP has the edge where mass is concerned...

Like I mentioned earlier I really like 19nors, and agree with you 90%. All Nandrolones that I've ran (Deca, NPP, and Base) gave great mass gains, so when going for strictly mass NPP or Base can have edge if stacked properly, but when considering overall results I still think Tren is greatest.

I'm actually considering to run stack of Tren Hex, NPP, Mast, and maybe Winny for lean bulking cycle some time next year. Since I get along with 19nors so well it could be great cycle.

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[northernknight]

Drol makes me feel like shit!!! i had a good run with it on one cycle when i was using genuine androlic, strength was insane...but ever since then i have felt sick as fuck and very lethargic on it... kills my appetite too.

as for nandrolones ,well i swore i was finished with deca after my last run but my next cycle i will give it one more dance.
I will be stacking it with TRen , OMG thats two 19nors !!! .

anywho,for anybody interested - i will post up the full cycle in another thread .

for anybody not interested -

Post it up bro! I'm very interested, like just posted above I'm planning same kind of blast in future.

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[Jack steel]

Why decide between npp and tren? I say use both together with mast and a little prop. The only thing better then one nandrolone in a stack is two together. You get a big increase in lean mass and strength, a drastic reduction in bf, along with crazy vascularity and hardness. Then the mast adds an additional level of hardening. As long as you keep the prop dose low there are no issues with Ed issues or any other sides that would cause discomfort. Just stay on top of your estrogen control with your ai, and health with n2guard. You could also throw in any orals you wanted as bloating won't be an issue.

I'm not making it between just NPP and tren, im just comparing all my options for the cornerstone of my cycle. I want one really good mass builder to work the other things around.

 

[Captain FT]

Having taken Deca, Tren Ace, Tren Enan, and NPP, I won't run any of the Trens again. Did I like them, yes I thought they were great, but my wife didn't like my attitude changes one bit. She always knows what I'm doing and when (doesn't know anything about the compounds though) and she came to me and asked me to stop whatever it was I was taking - at be time Test/Tren/Mast all Enanthates. I dropped the Tren a d just ran Test/Mast and she said that was much better. Anytime I've run deca or NPP she's never said a word to me, so for that aspect alone I'll take Deca or NPP.

 

[joeblow12345]

Having taken Deca, Tren Ace, Tren Enan, and NPP, I won't run any of the Trens again. Did I like them, yes I thought they were great, but my wife didn't like my attitude changes one bit. She always knows what I'm doing and when (doesn't know anything about the compounds though) and she came to me and asked me to stop whatever it was I was taking - at be time Test/Tren/Mast all Enanthates. I dropped the Tren a d just ran Test/Mast and she said that was much better. Anytime I've run deca or NPP she's never said a word to me, so for that aspect alone I'll take Deca or NPP.

Tren will make you an asshole at first. It took me several blasts to learn to curb it. I will have an asshole break through once in a while on it but I usually stop it dead in its tracks and apologize. You just have to learn to avoid conflicts while taking it and when they happen just take it all in stride.

 

[Captain FT]

Tren will make you an asshole at first. It took me several blasts to learn to curb it. I will have an asshole break through once in a while on it but I usually stop it dead in its tracks and apologize. You just have to learn to avoid conflicts while taking it and when they happen just take it all in stride.

It's different now that we have a 4yo and 2yo boys. I wasn't noticing but she sure did, so it just something I don't need in my life. I'm lucky she's still cool with me cycling.

 

[ceo]

You bros got some whack anadrol. 50mg twice a day feelsgoodman!

 

[TheSVPdeal]

Tren will make you an asshole at first. It took me several blasts to learn to curb it. I will have an asshole break through once in a while on it but I usually stop it dead in its tracks and apologize. You just have to learn to avoid conflicts while taking it and when they happen just take it all in stride.

I'm the same way, a dickhead for about two weeks and then Mr. Nice Guy that occasionally gets pissed.

 

[digit0x]

TestP, NPP and PrimoA worked as the best combo for me. You get the lean bulk with NPP with the finish of PrimoA. Like Radar said above NPP with a DHT compound works great.

NPP brings a lot to the table. I can't remember exactly everything in its profile but it does a lot that other AAS don't, or at least on a bigger scale. Its not tren, but for me undesirable sides were nil. I haven't ran it with anything but test before, but I can imagine mast/winy would really go well with it.

 

[joeblow12345]

It's different now that we have a 4yo and 2yo boys. I wasn't noticing but she sure did, so it just something I don't need in my life. I'm lucky she's still cool with me cycling.

Trust me bro I have 3 kids and I know how quickly they can push your buttons. The other day my son was trying to flush wash rags and whole rolls of toilet paper down the toilet. They are always doing something crazy, but that's what kids do. I just have to try a lot harder when I'm on tren to be patient with them and every one else. It's not an easy task but it can be done and I've learned to control it.

 

[Captain FT]

Trust me bro I have 3 kids and I know how quickly they can push your buttons. The other day my son was trying to flush wash rags and whole rolls of toilet paper down the toilet. They are always doing something crazy, but that's what kids do. I just have to try a lot harder when I'm on tren to be patient with them and every one else. It's not an easy task but it can be done and I've learned to control it.

I thought I was controlling it too, but my wife informed me otherwise and if that's how it's affecting her and others then it not something I need when there are alternatives. I wish it were different I loved tren.

 

[Jack steel]

Tren will make you an asshole at first. It took me several blasts to learn to curb it. I will have an asshole break through once in a while on it but I usually stop it dead in its tracks and apologize. You just have to learn to avoid conflicts while taking it and when they happen just take it all in stride.

No joke! I actually enjoy being an asshole on tren. I feel evil on it lol.

 

[stevesmi]

hey my position is if you try it and you don't like it then don't run it.

that simple. i've run my fair share of tren and deca too and I am moving on... not because i didn't like them, they did their jobs but my goals are changing... my next cycles (plural not all on 1 run) will include winny, primo, EQ, a little test, and halo. it will be my first time trying Halo but I want to experiment with it at a low dose. pretty much that is gonna be my next 2 or 3 cycles using those compounds..

 

[Jack steel]

Interesting. Would you say you are more on the NPP cycle than one your tren cycle ya think?

Fuck, I meant "ate more"

 

[Jack steel]

Having taken Deca, Tren Ace, Tren Enan, and NPP, I won't run any of the Trens again. Did I like them, yes I thought they were great, but my wife didn't like my attitude changes one bit. She always knows what I'm doing and when (doesn't know anything about the compounds though) and she came to me and asked me to stop whatever it was I was taking - at be time Test/Tren/Mast all Enanthates. I dropped the Tren a d just ran Test/Mast and she said that was much better. Anytime I've run deca or NPP she's never said a word to me, so for that aspect alone I'll take Deca or NPP.

That's great info for me Because aggression is a side I am very prone to. I have to be careful or I become a fucking demon prick

 

[Jack steel]

I thought I was controlling it too, but my wife informed me otherwise and if that's how it's affecting her and others then it not something I need when there are alternatives. I wish it were different I loved tren.

agreed. I still try to sneak in 100mg or so. Lol am I a tren addict??!

 

[ceo]

you bitches can't handle your shit! I should move this thread to the womens forum!

 

[TheSVPdeal]

you bitches can't handle your shit! I should move this thread to the womens forum!

I'll save it.

Mid December I go to 600mg tren enth ew for 6 weeks to take advantage of my holiday food loading.

"Fuck whatcha heard"

 

[Jack steel]

you bitches can't handle your shit! I should move this thread to the womens forum!