Nandralone advice

[Marco9]

New guy on here...44 years old and wanting a bit of an edge. I've been working out for years and just noticing that the older i get the harder it is to keep gains. (more input=less gain seems to be my experience after 42)
Recieved some nandrolone deconate.(275mg/ml) . Was going to do low doses and was told by a few people that in low doses I shouldnt need to to Test.
I've been freaking scouring the internet and everything I read contradicts itself. The only solid info so far is about HIV patients. I'm not HIV but it seems they dont give them Test and they dont get any side effects. Anybody here of this ?? 100 mg per week?? Will that do ANYTHING ??
A little nervous about starting...my wife is even more nervous. (she really doesnt want my libido to be affected...nor do I)
HELP!
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
Peace

 

[todoveritas]

After 25 + years in the BB game, I can attest that with regards to d3ca, 100mg Q week is pretty much a waste for BB purposes (though it does have beneficial medical properties-increase of erythropoesis, weight gain, etc. for HIV pts) For the over 40 crowd. I think 200-400 Q week is ideal and without a need for DD worry. If you want to stack, but do not like t3st, I advise low dose winy-25-50mg QD.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

New guy on here...44 years old and wanting a bit of an edge. I've been working out for years and just noticing that the older i get the harder it is to keep gains. (more input=less gain seems to be my experience after 42)
Recieved some nandrolone deconate.(275mg/ml) . Was going to do low doses and was told by a few people that in low doses I shouldnt need to to Test.
I've been freaking scouring the internet and everything I read contradicts itself. The only solid info so far is about HIV patients. I'm not HIV but it seems they dont give them Test and they dont get any side effects. Anybody here of this ?? 100 mg per week?? Will that do ANYTHING ??
A little nervous about starting...my wife is even more nervous. (she really doesnt want my libido to be affected...nor do I)
HELP!
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
Peace

100mg is a very low dose.

You need the test in order to have some type of libido and erectile function.

Just do a low dose test / deca cycle and you should be fine. Is this your first cycle? What are your goals?

 

[Heath1282]

the only problem is that any aas will shut you down, so therefore you need to introduce test into your body to make up for your body shutting down. deca only will give you whats called "deca dick." 100mg a week wont do much for you, other than maybe joint support. if i were you id find a little test and run that alone.

 

[Marco9]

After 25 + years in the BB game, I can attest that with regards to d3ca, 100mg Q week is pretty much a waste for BB purposes (though it does have beneficial medical properties-increase of erythropoesis, weight gain, etc. for HIV pts) For the over 40 crowd. I think 200-400 Q week is ideal and without a need for DD worry. If you want to stack, but do not like t3st, I advise low dose winy-25-50mg QD.

hope i'm replying correctly....new to this. Do you think I could get away with 300 mg/wk of Nandrolone and 25mg of Wini oral qd?? Or should I try and find Injectable Wini.
I really appreciate the quick response guys.... I thought I'd have to check in tommorrow...thanks a lot. Much appreciated
Mark

 

[2evil]

You're going to want some injectable Test. Probably 500 mg of Test E per week to run w/ the deca at that dose. In fact, most of your gains will likely come from the Test.

 

[mr.nitro]

your too young....


just kidding, im just so used to reading that. anyway, my father cycles (about 53yo). he uses about 600mg of deca with 1,000mg test and feels great. now i don't sugest that you really need a gram of test, but 500-750 should work fine with 400-600mg deca.

 

[Marco9]

100mg is a very low dose.

You need the test in order to have some type of libido and erectile function.

Just do a low dose test / deca cycle and you should be fine. Is this your first cycle? What are your goals?

Thnx man..I appreciate your response. This is my first cycle and my goals aren't really very lofty. I'm 6'3 and 200 lbs....mostly muscle but getting a little softer as I get older...definitely not digging that at all. Just looking to get harder and more cut...maybe a little bigger...but nothing crazy.
I'm ganna look into getting Test...I have androgel but I dont think that will cut it.
I'll let you know how it goes.

 

[jeb0177]

New guy on here...44 years old and wanting a bit of an edge. I've been working out for years and just noticing that the older i get the harder it is to keep gains. (more input=less gain seems to be my experience after 42)
Recieved some nandrolone deconate.(275mg/ml) . Was going to do low doses and was told by a few people that in low doses I shouldnt need to to Test.
I've been freaking scouring the internet and everything I read contradicts itself. The only solid info so far is about HIV patients. I'm not HIV but it seems they dont give them Test and they dont get any side effects. Anybody here of this ?? 100 mg per week?? Will that do ANYTHING ??
A little nervous about starting...my wife is even more nervous. (she really doesnt want my libido to be affected...nor do I)
HELP!
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
Peace

300mg it's the sweet spot for me... but of course with some test as well for the pecker to function properly.

 

[ViperHMS]

New guy on here...44 years old and wanting a bit of an edge. I've been working out for years and just noticing that the older i get the harder it is to keep gains. (more input=less gain seems to be my experience after 42)
Recieved some nandrolone deconate.(275mg/ml) . Was going to do low doses and was told by a few people that in low doses I shouldnt need to to Test.
I've been freaking scouring the internet and everything I read contradicts itself. The only solid info so far is about HIV patients. I'm not HIV but it seems they dont give them Test and they dont get any side effects. Anybody here of this ?? 100 mg per week?? Will that do ANYTHING ??
A little nervous about starting...my wife is even more nervous. (she really doesnt want my libido to be affected...nor do I)
HELP!
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
Peace

I would suggest you pin the 275mg weekly and find some test enth or cyp and run it at 250mg wk. There is no need for the higher doses for the purposes you are looking to use it for.

 

[doublebicep]

Thnx man..I appreciate your response. This is my first cycle and my goals aren't really very lofty. I'm 6'3 and 200 lbs....mostly muscle but getting a little softer as I get older...definitely not digging that at all. Just looking to get harder and more cut...maybe a little bigger...but nothing crazy.
I'm ganna look into getting Test...I have androgel but I dont think that will cut it.
I'll let you know how it goes.

Androgel or injectable test - either will work. It is really all about the blood level of free test. Deca with Androgel could be a great combination.

I see no reason for any oral AAS. But then, I never do unless you are a professional where the risk:benefit ratio is taken into consideration.

(I cannot understand why a person who takes on bodybuilding as a hobby or even a general lifestyle would ever do orals.)

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

Androgel or injectable test - either will work. It is really all about the blood level of free test. Deca with Androgel could be a great combination.

I see no reason for any oral AAS. But then, I never do unless you are a professional where the risk:benefit ratio is taken into consideration.

(I cannot understand why a person who takes on bodybuilding as a hobby or even a general lifestyle would ever do orals.)

Because they work?

 

[doublebicep]

Because they work?

Absolutely, I agree 100%, they do work but I was refering to the risks versus benefits of 17-alpha alkylated steroids.

Injectable test, deca, primo, etc...work with fewer risks then 17-alpha alkylated steroids. I would even argue that gains from test and primo are easier to keep then gains from 17-alpha alkylated steroids. I know some bros use 17-alpha alkylated steroids to jumpstart cycles and at times to end cycles.

It's a well known fact that 17-alpha alkylated steroids are liver toxic. But then so is vodka. Bottom line for me: it is a choice and should be left up to each individual not the government.

When I see the always present "orals only cycle" threads and bros stacking serveral diff orals for cycles lasting serveral months, I wonder why take the risk? I guess I am getting more cautious as I get older...sigh.

Back to this thread, for me deca is a good option. It has has no negative effects on the liver it can even be used by persons with liver diseases.
Down-side is it is very surpressive. HCG during cycle and a well planned and executed PCT is a must with deca.

A test + deca cycle is a great combo. I have never tried androgel but is sounds like it might make for a good combo with deca. Again, it depends on how much androgel would raise free test levels.