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Tyrone.Biggums
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Had somebody tell me Xpand was by far better than N2KTS, want peoples opinion
N2KTS vs. Xpand Xtreme pump
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I've tried te xpand caps. I had a few samples and was not impressed at all. No effects what so ever. I can't comment on the powder version.
N2kts is easily one of the best preworkouts I've used. Many here will probably echo my opinion on it. It's that good.
Apple flavor is the shizz.
N2kts is easily one of the best preworkouts I've used. Many here will probably echo my opinion on it. It's that good.
Apple flavor is the shizz.
testboi123
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IMO apple flavor tastes way to sweet and i almost wanted to puke...but it did the job. trying fruit punch next
It was good to me. Not too sweet but enough to keep anything from tasting bad.
needtogetaas
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And I am sure that some one was ether a company rep for that product or some one who has never used it..
Or maybe even you are a rep for them and this is a well placed "get some exposure " for there product thread that we have here.. HMMMMMMM??????
Because honestly anyone who can agree with that statement is out of there god damn mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
needtogetaas
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exactly... Not to mention the mind blowing skin burning power!!!! drop 3 scoops of it and slug it back.. Tell me it don't set your ass on fire and put you into Kill that shit mode for hours I dare ya!!!!
N2KTS by a long shot. Stuff is incredible. I need to stock up myself.
Apple is great!
Apple is great!
Really? I love it. How much water are you using? I use ~16 oz for o e scoop and it's perfect.
Check out my other thread http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/whats-your-preworkout-choice-740831.html it has opinions from everybody
Yep. Ultima is legit too, but it can't touch the energy and focus of N2kts. It is good to break from stims every so often though.
Yeah it seems Amp is the king of pumps N2kts stims and ultima as a non stim pwo
i strongly disagree..everyone is entitled to their own opinion but its not even close imo
RADAR
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Thats a perfect discription right there!
everyone is different bro.. i love the fruit punch
Tyrone.Biggums
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haha no i don't work for them it was an honest convo i had with my workout buddy.
RADAR
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never was a big fan of xpand myself.. n2kts is an easy choice over it
I've never tried the expand but N2KTS is the only product from NEED2 that I didn't absolutely love. I had good workouts w/ some solid pumps but it gave me horrible anxiety and my wife was getting pretty tired of it. I know plenty of people will disagree but its just my .02. N2BM is still the best company out there though.
How were you dosing it bro? How many scoops? Any other supps or medications?
I'd have an anxiety attack at three scoops too bro!
One scoop sets me off.
One scoop sets me off.
everyone reacts different to stimulants bro,..n2kts is an excellent product maybe its just to strong for u.. or try cutting your dosage in half
Ya after a long stim break 1 scoop had me going good.
Good call.
A lot of bros abuse stims. I like to take a month off of heavy stims every few months.
I've used more than one scoop of kts on occasion. One typically gets the job done for me though.
Strongbow
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I was pounding 6 plus scoops of SuperDump, and figured that I was so far gone that one scoop of nothing would give me results, but I can only do 1.5 scoops of N2KTS max. I have some controll issues and anything over 1.5 scoops would require me being chained up or caged.
dam six scoops ? lol
yea u pretty much spot on about n2kts.. if u need more to get u going or more then 2 scoops to get your energy flowing then u need to take a break from preworkouts period
pehaps maybe add a Nitric Oxide booster to increase the pumps.. if u can handle more that is..
needtogetaas
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Dont forget that when you have a experence like this with a product of mine the offer for a refund is always there for the taking my friend. I know my loyal customers who have used a lot of my products and loved all of them but one kind of cant bring them self to ask for a refund but please do . I give the refund for a reason guys. So that you never ever have to waste a single die of your money with me... You always get what works best for you or money back so that you can use it to find what works best for you..
needtogetaas
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Add 1 serving of Attack to 1 serving N2kts and you have got the best of both worlds. Matter of fact I think I will make a few new stacks in my store.
Strongbow
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I would definately be down for an N2KTS and Attack Stack.
u sure bro? i dont want to see u get put back in a cage lol..i remember u saying on n2kts u need to be put in a cage to calm u down..
i can only emagine what this stack will do to u lmaoo
grim_reapin
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And Superdump made me pwn my toilet every 30 minutes. Never again taking that stuff.
mexico2509
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one and a half scoops of green apple and i feel like my heads on fire!!! i love it 
needtogetaas
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We all need to kill some shot..
I killed that shit a little while ago 
RADAR
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Now that is a hell of a stack
love it .. awesome stack
N2kts + attack stack ftw!!!
Too far bro, too far lol
I killed it today too. No boners though.
I killed it today too. No boners though.
Dont forget that when you have a experence like this with a product of mine the offer for a refund is always there for the taking my friend. I know my loyal customers who have used a lot of my products and loved all of them but one kind of cant bring them self to ask for a refund but please do . I give the refund for a reason guys. So that you never ever have to waste a single die of your money with me... You always get what works best for you or money back so that you can use it to find what works best for you..
Thanks NEED2, I'm well aware of that but IMO that would be like going to your favorite restaurant where you know the owner, food is always top notch, the service is the best and you always have a discount then complaining because one time the appetizer came out wrong. I would have a hard time doing that. I just cant wait to see what this Katanadrol is all about. I already have sitting on my shelf!!!!!
like someone said in another thread.. u can always buy the sample packs also and give it a shot for 5 dollars..easy way to find out if u might like a product like n2kts..
only thing is sometimes it takes a few days of using a product for the verdict..
one and a half scoops of green apple and i feel like my heads on fire!!! i love it
Nice!!!
N2kts money
mexico2509
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yeah its by far my fav pre workout.... everyone at my gym has been talkin mad shit about Jacked 3D and didnt believe the N2KTS was better. last week one day i sent a sample pack with a guy (that i had gotten with some Forma)... he talked no more smack and i think already ordered the N2KTS!
send them over here or to needtobuildmuscle.com.. we will make them believers ! lol
let them know ntbm got a money back guarantee, if someone dont like the n2kts all they have to do is send it back.. no questions asked, they get a full refund
RADAR
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Nice bro,nice!
its not a problem bro.. u will hardly ever dislike a product from ntbm anyways.. so in the rare case u do, speak up.. u are encouraged to !
RADAR
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Yeah! thats what makes this company so great!
I don't think I've ever seen a negative review of n2kts.
I've seen bros be critcal of the product, try it out, then be completely blown away by it's awesomeness.
I've seen bros be critcal of the product, try it out, then be completely blown away by it's awesomeness.
RADAR
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needtogetaas
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I know man and its kind of the same way almost all my customers feel. Very very rarely do I get people asking for refunds. I have been in business just about 3 years some time this month. In the entire 3 years I have been in business I have had maybe 30 people ask for a refund for a product they were not happy with...
20 of them where for sustain and dermacrine liquavade. Products I did not even make and quickly dropped.
I had a person or two claim they got nothing from a otc steroid cycle ( not I believe them but hey it can happen). I have had a good amount of returns on protein but thats to be expected. You can not please everyone's taste buds. I figure I get 1 protein return every 3-5 months or so.
The rest of all my returns were " buyers remorse" type customers. Guys coming back to me a whole damn 2 years later and saying " ya I bought this Beastdrol from you and I used one bottle and was not happy so can I get a refund on the second bottle"
Not thinking I am going to go megiver/pet detective on there ass I whip out my microscope and what do I find.
1. Customer bought Beastdrol from NTBM two years ago when I was working of the old Joomla template site.
2. customer bought the pproduct during a buy 1 get one free sale. Used one bottle and now wants to get a full refund on the second bottle???? A whole two years later and I dont even sell the product any more??
3.. And the best kicker off all. I cross check his customer email and find his user account on ef. Customer has a thread braising beastrol as the best damn oct steroid ever created with before and after pics of a 20lb muscle gains..
YA OK BUDDY I GOT YOUR REFUND RIGHT HERE
me either unless it was a person that didnt like stims and didnt do their research on the ingredients in n2kts
and there are a shit load of people here telling n2kts is better..who to believe?
dont believe anyone! order it and try it .. there is a free moneyback guarantee with ALL ntbm products
also is a supersale on n2kts also..so get your order in before may 1st
Jesus Christ!! No wonder!
Dial it back to 1 scoop, then maybe 1.5 if you can handle that.
One of the Admin on another forum was a very outspoken skeptic of it. He compared it to jack3d and concluded N2KTS was not only better, but stronger stuff at a smaller serving size.
Here's what he said:
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