my very first cycle.

[HevensMovie]

ok, here are my stats: 5'11 at 190 around 17-18% of b/f. I Don't want to lose any weight, i just want to get ripped up with the size i already got. i already have a nice base, i just want to get ripped up and get some hardness and get some veins showing. I'm going to purchase winny/clen/nolvadex/clomid for a 10 week cycle real soon. I'm planning on using winny at 100mg/ed, clen at 20mcg/ed for two weeks on and two weeks off. and nolvadex for 10mg/eod thru out my cycle. The only reason i'm using nolvadex thru-out my cycle is that i'm really prone to gyno, so i just want to be careful and stop it before it even happens. and after that i'll be using clomid two weeks after my last winstrol pill.
can you help me design a good cycle? is there anything else i should purchase to help me out achieve my goals? how should i divide the doses up? thanks for all ur help.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

There is no need to use Nolvadex through out your cycle as you will not get gyno from Winny even at very high doses. You could throw some Eq in there at 300-400mg/week for 10 weeks, that should help get you the hard-vascular look you are going for.

M18

 

[Mike80]

20mcg of clen isn't going to do a damn thing.

 

[serge]

no no, your doing it all wrong.......
no nolvadex, winny does not aromotise
clen should be taken at a much higher dose, the you should increase the dose till you feel uncomfortable, then back down a bit.

instead of novadex invest in some eq or better yet some tren (very inexpensive)

run this:
tren 75mg/eod
winny 50mg/ed
clen (use the method i have outlined above to determine your dose)

 

[HevensMovie]

how much clen should i use then? I dont wanna have my heart pumpin outta my chest and start shaking and shit lol.

 

[Mike80]

how much clen should i use then? I dont wanna have my heart pumpin outta my chest and start shaking and shit lol.

dont limit yourself. I can handle 10 pills. Start out with 3-4 and work your way up until you feel shakey and uncomfortable, then back off one pill. Each pill is usually 20mcg.