my very first cycle, take a look.

[marcu_s]

ok guys here it goes. this will be a lean masscycle,

stats

187 pounds bf 11-13%
(upper 4 abs showing so i think its between that range)

183 cm
bench 242 pounds a few reps.

v 1-9 500 mg test p ( 70 mg ed)
v 4-9 500 iu hcg ( 250 iu mon,thurs)

( will also start taking creatine on week 8)

3 days after my last test shot ill start my pct

v 10-12 2500 iu hcg e5d
40 mg nolva ed

v 13-14 20 mg nolva ed

every 4th day ill upp my cals by 200...u think itl be enough?

 

[marcu_s]

cmon...its my first and i need some opinions...

 

[HAYEZ]

ok guys here it goes. this will be a lean masscycle,

stats

187 pounds bf 11-13%
(upper 4 abs showing so i think its between that range)

183 cm
bench 242 pounds a few reps.

v 1-9 500 mg test p ( 70 mg ed)
v 4-9 500 iu hcg ( 250 iu mon,thurs)

( will also start taking creatine on week 8)

3 days after my last test shot ill start my pct

v 10-12 2500 iu hcg e5d
40 mg nolva ed

v 13-14 20 mg nolva ed

i would do this instead......

use hcg up until 3 days before pct..dont use during pct
3 days after last aas+hcg injection
14 days nolva 40mg
7 days nolva 20mg

every 4th day ill upp my cals by 200...u think itl be enough?

 

[johnjosephholly]

I used 500mg test a week for 12 weeks for my first cycle and had almost your same stats as you and gained 25lbs, and kept 20 of them. Make sure you eat 4k cals a day. i stopped making gains the last two weeks because i did not get enough cals. i also ran the hcg during my cycle and did not notice any shrinking, it works better that way.

 

[sweed]

I would use something that would help shock the nuts during pct instead of just nolva.
I used 500mgs of test every week ( used enanthate) and did a hcg/clomid/ nolva pct 3.5 years ago and it worked fine. Now a lot of people are using different 'natural' pct methods from pp and others and they say they work great. I would do a little reseach on that.
evyerhting else looks great. keep calories high. it's hard to say what your bf is without a pic. but if you say 11-13% I'll beleive you. I think people underestimate there bf imo.
why not creatine throughout the cycle?

 

[kas1]

Looks pretty good to me. Keep the cals and protein up get plenty of rest and you should get some good results. If he runs the hcg throughout the end of his cycle as planned, should keep the boys going fine.

 

[HAYEZ]

I would use something that would help shock the nuts during pct instead of just nolva.
I used 500mgs of test every week ( used enanthate) and did a hcg/clomid/ nolva pct 3.5 years ago and it worked fine. Now a lot of people are using different 'natural' pct methods from pp and others and they say they work great. I would do a little reseach on that.
evyerhting else looks great. keep calories high. it's hard to say what your bf is without a pic. but if you say 11-13% I'll beleive you. I think people underestimate there bf imo.
why not creatine throughout the cycle?

if your going to use supplements add them on dont use them for a base...if you use nolva or clomid add on sustain or whatever other pct item you want...but do not drop the nolva or clomid

 

[Rage-Of-Sparta]

i wouldnt do prop for a first cycle
stick to longer esters like cyp or enan

 

[access]

I agree with Sparta on the use of Enan or Cyp for your first go round. Nothing wrong with prop at all (actually I prefer it myself) but generally speaking it can get a bit tedious pinning yourself ED. If your definately up for that then fine but it's a lot easier doing 1 or 2 injects a week with a longer ester.

You also don't need the HCG in PCT as mentioned. Running as you are through cycle is ideal. I typically start around week 4 also but just keep an eye on atrophy as sometimes you may need to start a little earlier. Also 20mgs/day of Nolva is more than enough. You don't need to go any higher than this. If you do switch to a longer ester then wait two weeks to start the nolva and you may want to consider adding in PP's Testosterone Recovery Stack. It is an excellent addition to recovery.

Most of all good luck and keep us posted on progress.

 

[02gixxersix]

i wouldnt do prop for a first cycle
stick to longer esters like cyp or enan

I'd have to agree for the most part although one of the nice things about short esters for a first cycle is that they start working fast and they clear fast if there are any sides that you wouldn't know you are prone to. For the sake of simplicity though the long esters are nice.