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My Thoughts on Yohimburn....

40butpumpin said:
Can someone tell me if there are any potential side effects from this like high blood pressure, increased heart rate, etc. Thanks for any help.
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they are all POTENTIAL side effects, but they typically only occur at higher dosages or in combination with other stimulants.

most common sides of too much are chills, tiredness, headache, high bp, increased HR..
 
Sorry if this question is a bit off topic :( I understand that yohimburn blocks a2 receptor sites, and stubborn fat areas is where the concentration is the highest. My question is what about visceral fat, that surround your organs? Is this type of fat effected at all? thanks for your advice as always
 
Would time of day when using yburn matter. From what i gather, the yburn allows the release of glycogen from estrogenic fat deposits into the BS to be metabolized. If this is true, once released, how long in the BS does the fat stay before it is stored as fat again (granted you dont burn it off). I ask cuz i was curious if bedtime was a bad time to apply cuz our metabolism will slow (not to mention i take my halo and ECA in the mornings heaviest).
 
bigrand said:
I ask cuz i was curious if bedtime was a bad time to apply cuz our metabolism will slow (not to mention i take my halo and ECA in the mornings heaviest).
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bedtime/sleep is also the longest period of caloric deprivation. many people report good results with before sleep admin.
 
How long should i run it on a site before changing locations (love handles to pecs)?
Also, ive been mixing fina with iso-p alcohol then mixing with the yburn before i apply. Im getting yellow skin on my hands. Is it normal for fina to stain some, or is the dbol and halo catching up to me.....
 
bigrand said:
How long should i run it on a site before changing locations (love handles to pecs)?
Also, ive been mixing fina with iso-p alcohol then mixing with the yburn before i apply. Im getting yellow skin on my hands. Is it normal for fina to stain some, or is the dbol and halo catching up to me.....
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fina has yellow dye

it might be more effective to apply fina solution first then apply yohimburn..
 
why would it matter, i mean if i apply the fina with the yburn, the fina mixes iwith the carrier and they go together???
 
bigrand said:
why would it matter, i mean if i apply the fina with the yburn, the fina mixes iwith the carrier and they go together???
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in theory, by applying first, it would limit any potential, but not certain, detrimental effects of aloe's hydrating effects upon delivery of a lipophilic drug like trenbolone.. (it has been posited that aloe effects, which are very beneficial with hydrophilic drugs, may impede delivery of lipophilic ones.. though no REAL evidence one way or the other)

though in theory it could be done either way.. you were looking for optimization.. which in theory the separate apps would provide..

try it both ways and see if you can tell a difference.
 
NOTE: the MORE yohimburn that you use the MORE important diet and and cardio are to getting maximal results per DOSE.


the increase in metabolic rate is less ratio wise as compared to the increase in FFA release.. thus as dosage increases the UTILIZATION, through caloric deficit or increased exercise, of the FFA's becomes MORE important.
 
Hows this......
At night application of Yburn+fina+nolva.
The next day, i dont eat anything till around 2-4 in the afternoon, but before that, i pop 6 halo and 5 ripped fuel extreme (two seperate doses of course). Talk about cardio on an empty stomach...........

How long does the yburn stay activated (or how long does the FFA's stay in the bloodstream to be metabolized)?
 
I am on day 5 of yohimburn. I am not noticing these crazy results that everyone is. I am using 1/3 pipette on each love handle and a full pipette on the stomach ED. I do this after a shower and I thuroughly dry the area and scrub it in the shower to exfoliate it. Some days I feel a reasonable burn and other days not much at all. I know I should take 2 days off because of water retention but I am also on femara 2.5 mg EOD so that should be a problem right, any other tips would be very appreciated, macro or ulter.
 
HugeWannabe said:
I am on day 5 of yohimburn. I am not noticing these crazy results that everyone is. well most of the people that notice "crazy results" in the first week are those using it on very small areas like around nipple and under the chin where A2 concentrations are often ultra dense I am using 1/3 pipette on each love handle and a full pipette on the stomach ED.abs can be a good area, but it varies.. certain reporting ethnic groups have found it to be very effective on abs.. location of A2 concetrations is often genetic.. lower abs seems to be much more consistent among all groups.. I do this after a shower and I thuroughly dry the area and scrub it in the shower to exfoliate it. Some days I feel a reasonable burn and other days not much at all.very good.. burning sensation will vary often with moisture content of skin. I know I should take 2 days off because of water retention but I am also on femara 2.5 mg EOD so that should be a problem right, any other tips would be very appreciated, macro or ulter.femara MAY help with water, but it will not eliminate it.. take your days off, unless you want to wait to make an analysis.. and take pics.. they are much more honest than the ever evaluating eye :p
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TTORO said:
Does anyone use this stuff at nite. Should i try it while im sleeping ?

T
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quite a few people..

many find that at higher doses, without activity, it makes them sleepy.. though it varies.. others are bouncing of the walls :p
 
bigrand said:
Hows this......
At night application of Yburn+fina+nolva.
The next day, i dont eat anything till around 2-4 in the afternoon, but before that, i pop 6 halo and 5 ripped fuel extreme (two seperate doses of course). Talk about cardio on an empty stomach...........you are going too long without food, a small meal with fruit based carbs in the AM is a good idea.. the negative impact of such fasting outweighs the benefits

How long does the yburn stay activated (or how long does the FFA's stay in the bloodstream to be metabolized)?]the greatest intensity will be 2-4 hrs after application, however there will be lesser effects for at least 10hrs(some slow release/penetration of yohimbine and OH metabolites as well-- which have rather long half lives)
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When I first started reading about Yohimburn I thought it must be the best thing since sliced bread, so I ordered a big bottle of the stuff. I just couldn't wait. Well, for some reason when I got it the first thing I thought was "Way to go dumbass. You just payed $70 for some liquid Preparation-H.". I went ahead and used it (didn't even use the 5 on 2 off cycle - just whenever I remembered to). Now I'm 2/3 of the way through the bottle and my roommates wonder why my bedroom smells like an old folks home.

So when are you guys coming out with a bigger bottle?

About ten days ago I looked at myself in the mirror and I realized I'd gotten noticeably leaner around the midsection. This shit does work. The greatest area of improvement for me has been around my kidneys and the outer chest between the armpit and the nipple. No water retention and no problems with woman-fat hanging over my jeans. Now when I rub the stuff on my sides at night I smile because it feels more like skin and less like cookie dough.
 
In all honesty I fucked up a couple of cycles some time back and had some estrogenic fatty deposits that I could not get rid of and was bugging the hell out of me.

Yohimburn fixed it. I honestly (and I dont get any kind of cut for plugging this stuff) do not cut without it anymore..

Im still blown away that there is a supplement that acutally does what it says and does it well.

peace,
WCP
 
Its my pleasure...at some point can I get a discount...BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

No seriously...thanx for turning me on to it..

WCP
 
started yohimburn 2 wks ago.1/4 pipette each love handle.
no change in diet.very noticeable change.I wish I had taken before and after photos.thanks for turning me on to it.
 
This kind of thing is much more telling than a poll. 200+ posts on this thread with the mods and vets all telling how well they did with Yohimburn. Here you get to see who is saying what. The people who liked it and some who didn't. There are 2000+ people on this board who used Yohimburn and less than 50 members voted in the poll. And again we don't even know who voted. I like the poll though, don't get me wrong, having the name Yohimburn on the first page all the time is nice.
 
So ... I see you've started deleting my posts again.

It's pretty sleazy that I post that the results of the poll match those of a historical control for placebos and you delete it.

Any excuse for this? Or is it just a lack of ethics?
 
Personally I think it's that you have lost any right to be treated any other way. You are lucky to even still be on this board. It is also an insult to the intellegence of the people here that you would tell them that you know more about their results than they do.
Who the F*ck do you think you are to tell WCP, Fonz, Huck, Bulld0g, and all the countless mods and vets here that they don't know their own results but you do?
 
ulter said:
Personally I think it's that you have lost any right to be treated any other way. You are lucky to even still be on this board. It is also an insult to the intellegence of the people here that you would tell them that you know more about their results than they do.
Who the F*ck do you think you are to tell WCP, Fonz, Huck, Bulld0g, and all the countless mods and vets here that they don't know their own results but you do?
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Ulter, I simply pointed out what a random pool stated... that there was a 2/3rds dissatisfaction rate with Yohimburn... and that the numbers of the poll came within the parameters of historical controls for a placebo. There was no justification for removing my post.

I know you have a great interest in hyping and bumping your product to make a buck - but do you think it is ethical to do this at the expense of free speach on these boards?
 
No bro read it again 2-3 times as many people said it works vs those who said it didn't and you voted it didn't and you didn't even try it so the numbers are meaningless even though they are still over 2 to 1 in our favor. Didn't know they logged that did you?
I don't consider people who voted it should cost less as voting it doesn't work. No one wishes it costs less more than I do. The product liabilty insurance company makes more per bottle than we do for Chrissakes. But we can't control that.
 
ulter said:
No bro read it again 2-3 times as many people said it works vs those who said it didn't and you voted it didn't and you didn't even try it so the numbers are meaningless even though they are still over 2 to 1 in our favor. Didn't know they logged that did you?
I don't consider people who voted it should cost less as voting it doesn't work. No one wishes it costs less more than I do. The product liabilty insurance company makes more per bottle than we do for Chrissakes. But we can't control that.
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Ulter,

I've sent a letter to George Spellwin to protest his giving you access to my private information. It is wholey disgusting that George is not only giving you access to the private voting of his board members - but also that he is allowing you to gloat about it publicly.
 
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No bro read it again 2-3 times as many people said it works vs those who said it didn't and you voted it didn't and you didn't even try it so the numbers are meaningless even though they are still over 2 to 1 in our favor. Didn't know they logged that did you?
I don't consider people who voted it should cost less as voting it doesn't work. No one wishes it costs less more than I do. The product liabilty insurance company makes more per bottle than we do for Chrissakes. But we can't control that.
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Ulter,

I've sent a letter to George Spellwin to protest his giving you access to my private information. It is wholey disgusting that George is not only giving you access to the private voting of his board members - but also that he is allowing you to gloat about it publicly.
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:)
 
am i throwing this bottle of yohimburn in the garbage?

hey bros im gonna be running sust wks 1-8 750mgs week
ldex 1mg eod

now i will be bulking consuming 4000-4500cals

i have a whole yohimburn bottle to use for pec usage only, i dont have gyno, i just have a fattier chest naturally, would using the yohimburn at 1/4 pipette a pec a day 5 days on 2 off still work, could i expect any fatloss, or none, i just wanna get those pecs a little tighter, would this work with 5 on 2 off for 2 months? i will be using it before i workout when i take my eca

should i expect anything?
 
someone here mentioned some stuff called lipoderm and said its a topical fat burner. Is there any major differences or advantages yohimburn has over this stuff?
 
luto,
they are completely different platforms.

Yohimburn does not contain any toxic alcohols. Lipo does.. two of them.. the basis for the platform being the delivery of Benzyl Alcohol. in all fairness.. since the amount of benzyl and isopropyl are not known.. nor is the amount delivered.. it cannot be said whether this translates into a delivery of toxic amounts of these alcohols.

PE enhancement is similar(l-menthol and glycerin).. However.. aloe in yohimburn has many properties.. including dermal hydration which stabilizes and "widens" the percutaneous delivery pathways. this is mainly an effect of the heavy weight polysacchrides which have been shown to localize dermal delivery. the also keep your skin from becoming dry as well as having some beneficial effects on dermal health.

Note- for those concerned about vascular uptake..Yohimbine has a peripheral vasoconstrictive effect. in the skin this is probably a factor of solely pre-synaptic A2. so unless you are applying a very vascular area.. using non-penetrative carrier or a carrier that causes vasodialation (which some alcohols do)... this is not an issue
 
sustman,

on what sites did you use it?

as puffynips are 30-40% non-responsive (because source is prolactin)

and abs also vary...as they can be more of a insulin issue as opposed to A2.. though lower abs almost always respond..


Generally (but not always.. and women less so)

the more even the fat distribution the less likely to respond (insulin and other issues)

the more disproportionate the fat distribution the better the response (disproportionate fat=more likely dense A2)
 
SUST-MAN said:
macro....if many people cant use it on their abs.....or on your chest......

Bro, when should we put it?
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you can put it on CHEST

the PUFFY NIPPLES issue is less of certainty..somewhere betweeen 50 and 70% get great results.. the other either get only some or in a few cases none (prolactin suppression must be used in these cases.. there are a # of options)

you can put it on ABS (response is just less certain as this can be due to a insulin issue.. feedback seems to indicate that this may be a genetic issue as certain ethnic groups really respond with abs)

.. LOWER ABS and LOVE HANDLES are VERY good areas as is LOWER BACK..

though these areas will vary among populations (as well as sexes.. women most often get A2 dense hips thighs and triceps)..
 
Why spend the money on yohimburn when you can do the same thing, probable more effectively and certainly cheaper by taking the yohimbine orally? Not only is it cheaper but it hits all areas as it is systemic. Just pick up 5grams of powdered yohimbine hcl, add to water to make it up at 8-10mg/ml, take at .2mg/kg(work up to this dose) and you will be good to go. You might want to go slow if you are doing anything else like clen or eca since you can get tachy and very jittery pretty easily. Also, DO NOT overdose on this stuff or you will pay the price! Do it 30min before exercise on an empty stomach to maximize the effect.
good luck,

jb

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Alpha 2-antagonist compounds and lipid mobilization: evidence for a lipid mobilizing effect of oral yohimbine in healthy male volunteers.

Galitzky J, Taouis M, Berlan M, Riviere D, Garrigues M, Lafontan M.

Laboratoire de Pharmacologie Clinique et Medicale, Universite Paul Sabatier, Toulouse, France.

Investigations were carried out to analyse the interactions of alpha 2-antagonists (yohimbine, idazoxan, SK & F-86,466) with human fat cell alpha 2-adrenoceptors. All the alpha 2-antagonists enhanced the lipolytic potencies of epinephrine with an order of potency: yohimbine greater than idazoxan greater than SK & F-86,466; the same order was also found in 3H-yohimbine competition studies on human fat cell membranes. The most potent agent, yohimbine, was administered orally in humans to define the conditions of appearance and the time-course of a putative lipid-mobilizing action. Oral yohimbine administration (0.2 mg kg-1) elevated plasma glycerol and non-esterified fatty acids in fasting healthy subjects without significant action on heart rate or blood pressure during the time-course of the experiment. The lipid-mobilizing action of yohimbine was reinforced during physical exercise, completely suppressed after a meal and partially blocked by administration of propranolol (0.5 mg kg-1; 60 min before yohimbine). Plasma norepinephrine concentrations were increased (40-50%) after oral yohimbine administration. The rise in plasma catecholamine concentration elicited by yohimbine was not modified by propranolol treatment. The lipid-mobilizing effect of yohimbine could be attributable to: (i) the increase in synaptic norepinephrine with a resultant increment in lipolysis by beta-adrenergic agonism; (ii) a decrease in alpha 2-adrenoceptor stimulation of human fat cell alpha 2-adrenoceptors; (iii) a blockade of presynaptic alpha 2-adrenoceptors. The use of highly selective alpha 2-antagonists will allow investigations into alpha 2-adrenoceptors, which may represent a novel locus for pharmacological intervention in lipid-mobilization strategies.
 
Jbold,

there is nothing wrong with oral use. It does help as the above study shows. What is does not show is that with oral use at even low to moderate doses that ANXIETY is often so severe that a significant percentage of people cannot use this way (strangely enough there seem to be quite a few people on these boards and elsewhere that have anxiety without this.. for them it can be really bad). With yohimburn most people who get anxiety from oral use have no problems. If you read the body of most of the oral studies drop-out rates are very high... for this very reason.

As far as systemic being better (you will get some systemic with yohimburn.. but it will be less and it will be more percentage wise the phase 2 metabolites which are much less harsh on the CNS and still help with fat burning). ANother issue that with oral use the areas that need yohimbine exposure the most get little if any (poor blood flow). With yohimburn you can directly target these areas and increase the local presence of yohimbine and its metabolites many fold.


While oral use is helpful and has its place, its effects are not comparable to yohimburn use.. as those that have tried both have found... there are those that have decently high tolerance to yohimbine that enjoy stacking (though usually small oral doses..) such a those found in NYC/Adipo (under 6mg).. and even at that dose alone there are still significant # of people who get anxiety (and those same people most often find that with yohimburn.. even at higher doses.. NONE)
 
supernav said:
ahem...

so my procedure is completely fine?

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.... :p .... yes.. it looks good.

the 30-40min is a guideline.. if you "feel" ready to go.. before that. go for it..

as far as the cleaning of the site.. it is important (though if regular exfoliation it is less so).. especially if you have oily skin at the site..

for those with very oily skin.. the use of alcohol may be preferable.
 
Thanks for the reasonable reply. I will admit that i have never tried yohimburn and probably wont because of the expense. I do not doubt the science of it, seems sound. It would be interesting to see some real science evaluating the penetration of the yhcl using your carriers and the half-live. Unfortunately I would guess that to be unlikely given the expense of conducting the studies. You have me motivated now, guess i will whip up some topical and see how it does. :)

Sounds like yohimburn is a success for you guys.

jb
 
I duno?

I've read like a thousand posts on yohimburn. and I was like this stuff has to work. so I talked my training partner in to buying it and trying it first since he has a lower bf % than me he is around 12 to 10 %bf. well he has been using it religiously now for 2 1/2 weeks 3 days on 1 off now he has been off for 3 days so we could see if thier was any change.

ok we took before pics. and today we were comparing the before pics to today. it's been days so I figure alot of water RT would be gone.
well to be honest with you we don't really see any difference what so ever. we had a couple other people check it out and they can't. but their seems to be a little difference around his nipps. but thats about it.

he was doing it once in the morning and in the evening. just to his abs and chest. 1/2 pep on this abs and 1/4 pep on each pec.

I believe we were very well informed on how and what to do so I don't believe he took it wrong or didn't do this or do that wrong. (I know I’m not him and couldn’t watch him 2/7)

I just dunno guys. I was set on getting some but I will hold off now. he still has some left and will continue to take it till it is gone and we will see then but for the price I think I'll just wait. And when he is totally done I will post the pics. I promise. I also notice their seem to be no bf and after pics whats up with that?


Killer:smash:
 
"I also notice their seem to be no bf and after pics whats up with that? "
Their used to be but the people wanted them removed after they were up for a while because they compete and don't want their pics on this board, for obvious reasons. :)

I don't think you will see a big change in 2 weeks most the time. Some people respond that quickly because they have a lot of Estrogenic fat sitting there. But the average Joe is going to take a month to 6 weeks.
You will never know how fast it works for you by looking at someone elses results. Unless they are your brother and even then there may be differences in results. The storage of the kind of stubborn fat that Yohimburn works on is very individual.
 
supernav said:


btw: i am absoulstey amazed at how much energy r-ala gives out. Amazing. rs-ala always made me tired and sleepy.

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:p

btw- how old are you? just trying to determine how important age is to "certain" effects and results..
 
supernav said:
just turned 30.

and now that i'm actually washing the area b4 putting it on ... i'm DEFINATELY noticing a burning feeling. So now i'm going to start seeing what, if any, results are going to start happening. Stay tuned. Same bat time, same bat channel.

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thanks for the feedback

:p
 
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