My take on insulin usage...

[marshallmadman]

Been on 10iu of insulin PWO for the last three weeks, and have noticed absolutely nothing in the way of results. Just thought I'd share. Anyone have any idea what to make of this?
Also on...

2000mg/wk of Omnadren
800mg/wk of EQ
100mg/day of Anadrol
5iu e.o.d. of GH

Someone told me that insulin was pretty darned impressive as far as mass gains go, but I haven't seen anything yet. Any opinions?

 

[acneman]

what type of insulin?
timiing after workout?
all calories consumed after insulin for 4 hrs and when?
you got the info? i got the answers for that question
also were you taking on the same day as gh?

 

[marshallmadman]

I'm using the Humalog pen. I use it when I get in the car after my workout. On the drive home, I consume 2 scoops of Anator P70 with 2 tablespoons of AST's DGC to increase Anator's already 59 grams of carbs. I would guess I'm getting approximately 100g of Dextrose PWO.

An hour later, I consume 100g of carbs from either sweet potatoes or white rice, and 50 grams of Whey protein.

 

[acneman]

I'm using the Humalog pen. I use it when I get in the car after my workout. On the drive home, I consume 2 scoops of Anator P70 with 2 tablespoons of AST's DGC to increase Anator's already 59 grams of carbs. I would guess I'm getting approximately 100g of Dextrose PWO.

An hour later, I consume 100g of carbs from either sweet potatoes or white rice, and 50 grams of Whey protein.

ok im not familiar with anator p70 does it include whey protein?
100grams of carbs is the magic number with 10ius of insulin
but i would have 50 grams of whey with that
second meal looks fine you could nock it back 15/30 min if your not feeling weak
since your taking 3.5 grams of gear/week it might be difficult to isolate its action
but in my opinion it is most likely the growth hormone that is the culprit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone_treatment#_note-0
GH treatment usually decreases insulin sensitivity[1]. This effect does not seem to cause problems in most people but it is possible to envision a combination of factors which would make this a more significant effect

it can reduce the effectiveness of exogenic insulin supplementation
since i dont recomend going over 4 weeks at a time with insulin you have a week to go
make sure the carbs and protein are together at time of shot
second meal fine
add a third meal at 2.5 to 3 hrs consisting of low glycemic carbs and slow protien like broccali with chicken and cottage cheese
make sure hgh is taken on oppisite days of insulin and let me know how you feel it works

 

[marshallmadman]

I'm probably not eating enough. There's only 20g of Protein in Anator P70 but it's from specific sources for PWO re-fueling. Perhaps I'll throw another meal down 30 minutes after that, and then like an hour and a half after that.

 

[acneman]

good luck
and if you got time check this out

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156144