My second Anavar cycle

[fit'in'romania]

Hi everyone, I'm Anna from Romania and I started my second Anavar Cycle today. But first, some personal history:

I'm 24, 5ft7, 136 pounds, BF= 18%, been training for the past 7 years and i've been more than scrupulous foe the last 2 years.

My first cycle was 5 mg of var for 4 weeks during july this year, and I managed to gain about 13 pounds of muscle, most of which stayd on. Before starting the cycle, I weighed 125 pounds, at the end I was 138 pounds. What was amazing indeed during the first cycle was the strength gains, I managed to double my weights on most exercises, with the most impressive gain in bicep curls: from 11 pounds DB, to 22 . Yeey for me! Other than that, I was on a low fat- high protein diet, at about 2300 kcal a day, 55 % protein, 35% carbs and 10% fat. Protein came from veal, fish and hydrolized collagen, carbs came from oatmeal, integral organic rice, non-starchy veggies. Fat came from CLA supplements and flaxseed, as well as fish oil caps.
No period delays or anything, no acne, no side-effects. All in all, a good experience.

Since july, i switched to a ketogenic diet, which helped me erase all cellulite from my bum. Lucky me, I do not have fat deposits on my legs, thighs or belly, but rather an uniform layer of fat all over my body.

Right now, my diet is like this: 1800 kcal a day, 55 % fat, 40% protein, 5% carbs.

Protein sources: veal, pork, turkey, fish - i don t eat chicken because of estroges contained in the chicken meat

Fat sources: oils, sour cream, raw almonds, flaxseed

Carbs sources: raw spinach, green salad, almonds& nuts, all raw

My training goes like this: I take one Pilates class a day, every day except Sunday . I weight-train 3 times a week and now I will start cardio routine on 3 days a week, separately from weightlifting.

My new cycle: 5 mg of anavar on 6 days a week, 10 on the day I train my legs - it's the most intense workout i do, and love to see the weight adding up. cycle duration: 6 weeks.

Target: keeping my lean body mass at the same level as it is now, while decreasing my BF to 15%. I am not a Fitness competitor, just a fitness enthuziast , so I don t really need to lower my BF more than 14-15%.

Why I decided to use AAS? At 16, I weighed 198 pounds. It was the moment I decided my body will never be anything but beautiful. So i managed to lower my weight in a healthy manner, with diet and training, but I reached my plateau. Now, I want more, maybe even be good looking enough to compete , who knows?

 

[Bikini Mod]

You gave A LOT of good info. Gives a great starting point. Welcome ANNA! You are very close to my motherland. Magyar holgy vagyok! (sorry don't have keyboard/program to make proper characters)

From your workout schedule I will say this: YOU ARE OVERTRAINING - PERIOD. and from your diet (though VERY GOOD in many aspects) you are not giving your body enough comp carbs to grow.

Combine overtraining with not enough comp carbs for fuel you WILL halt progress in the *building lean mass* department and no amount of anabolic agent will make up for this.

Honestly, IMO you can achieve same result (for the goal that you have) without anavar. You have obviously put a great deal of time into your training and diet but you have not yet reached your genetic potential by any stretch.

There are some proponents of a ketogenic diet but I am not one of them. I tried it and yes, you do lose weight, but IMHO you lose too much muscle and water and not enough bodyfat making the results temporary - HORRIBLE for building/maintaining lean mass. The macro-breakdown for your current diet will not lend itself to a good result IMHO. You should have 40% protein, 30% carb, 30% fat. You've got good fats in there girl, you just have to shift it around a bit to more carbs/less fat and as for the protein there are different schools of thought. Some say as much as 2G of protein per pound of BODYWEIGHT, others say as little as 1G of protein per pound of bodyweight. It's up to you. I found that the key to manipulating bf is cycling carbs/cardio.

But since you have decided to use anabolice please know that longer cycle low dose is the way to go in regards to building quality mass longterm. Did you take 5mg every day or EOD (every other day)?

Please let me know your thoughts.

And again, WELCOME! Good to see you here!

 

[LadyRaptor]

yeah girl...your diet is very similar to what my coach had me on....I KNOW WHAT WORKS FOR ME, and of course, everyone is different....shift those fats HIGHER, lower the carbs a bit (even carb cycle if you like... 4xlow 1 or 2xhigher) but the fats will shed off the weight....the roller coaster of carb cycling will keep your muscles full and looking good.

Uh...plilates every day? You like it that much? I've got BLASTING abs baby...and they are from... straight leg lifts, ab-wheel, KettleBell renegade rows...ARE UNREAL FOR YOUR CORE AND ABS) and that is ALL...not one "sit-up" in my routine.

YOU ARE IN ROMANIA...you should be a KETTLEBELL GODDESS!!! Screw pilates.. or only do pilates ONE DAY per week...your other training will make up for it!

 

[Bikini Mod]

Yup, lotsa different ways to approach the same goal: something I learned in the few years that I competed. We never did things the same way twice and made adjustments along the way.

Ultimately YOU have to decide what works for YOUR BODY BEST!

And I agree wholeheartedly with the corestrengthening and all over body strengthening movements that can and do supplement classic weight-lifting workouts!

 

[fit'in'romania]

Hi there Bikinimom, and thank you kindly for your warm welcome

The reason I have decided to use AAS is here: I have lost a lot of weight, my RMR is quite low due to this fact, plus I have some issues with my thyroid gland- from time to time, my T4 levels drop below the minimum, but I have not yet managed to discover the link between my diet and this.

Overtraining- you may have a point here, I've been a bit paranoid monitoring the signs but i haven't found any real signs of overtraining: i sleep 8 hours a night, occasionally take an afternoonish nap, I eat 5-6 meals a day at regular hours and so on

Carbs: I have some personal issues with carbs: for some reasons, whenever I introduce them in my diet, I find it difficult to keep on track with my calories and I have noticed a tendency towards overeating. This seems to be easier to control while on a ketogenic diet, where I eat about 25 g of complex carbs a day, plus an additional 30 g of dietary fiber. Why have I chosen this diet? not for the primary weight loss goal, but for the fact that somehow, I feel much better, much more energetic throughout the day. My personal issue with carbs is that whenever they get back on my diet, cellulite pops in on my bum. And I personally hate cellulite.

My first cycle was 5 mg a day, every day. My mistake was a typical one, though: after the cycle I went on holiday, and I wasn't so diet-conscious as I used to be for 5 days. The result wasn't horrible, but not good either.

Current situation: I'm planning to stay on cycle for 6 weeks, without increasing the dose. I don t believe in excesses, especially with AAS. I have read a massive amount of information on AAs before deciding to start the cycles, and I know about sides and benefits. I am careful with all the signs, I monitor my voice changes and so on, I weigh every meal and monitor all food intake. I am considering cutting the Pilates workouts, although I really love the flexibility benefits, as well as the stability I get after a Pilates routine.

One question: I take the Anavar first thing in the morning, than eat after about 10 minutes. With the same meal I take my multivitamins, joint support supplement, about 2 g of Vitamin C, yohimbine HCL 2.5 mg . Would it be a better idea to take half the var in the morning, half prior to workout?(i go to the gym in the afternoon for weight lifting)
Again, I'm experimenting with my diet, I'll slowly shift towards a higher amount of carbs with a cumulative increase in workouts intensity. I am not narrow minded, I have tried both ways and I will addapt my diet to my body's needs.

Now, back to study for my exams, catch up with you guys later! And, by the way, it feels great to be here!

 

[Bikini Mod]

Hi there Bikinimom, and thank you kindly for your warm welcome

The reason I have decided to use anabolic androgenic steroids is here: I have lost a lot of weight, my RMR is quite low due to this fact, plus I have some issues with my thyroid gland- from time to time, my T4 levels drop below the minimum, but I have not yet managed to discover the link between my diet and this.

Overtraining- you may have a point here, I've been a bit paranoid monitoring the signs but i haven't found any real signs of overtraining: i sleep 8 hours a night, occasionally take an afternoonish nap, I eat 5-6 meals a day at regular hours and so on

Carbs: I have some personal issues with carbs: for some reasons, whenever I introduce them in my diet, I find it difficult to keep on track with my calories and I have noticed a tendency towards overeating. This seems to be easier to control while on a ketogenic diet, where I eat about 25 g of complex carbs a day, plus an additional 30 g of dietary fiber. Why have I chosen this diet? not for the primary weight loss goal, but for the fact that somehow, I feel much better, much more energetic throughout the day. My personal issue with carbs is that whenever they get back on my diet, cellulite pops in on my bum. And I personally hate cellulite.

My first cycle was 5 mg a day, every day. My mistake was a typical one, though: after the cycle I went on holiday, and I wasn't so diet-conscious as I used to be for 5 days. The result wasn't horrible, but not good either.

Current situation: I'm planning to stay on cycle for 6 weeks, without increasing the dose. I don t believe in excesses, especially with anabolic androgenic steroids. I have read a massive amount of information on anabolic androgenic steroids before deciding to start the cycles, and I know about sides and benefits. I am careful with all the signs, I monitor my voice changes and so on, I weigh every meal and monitor all food intake. I am considering cutting the Pilates workouts, although I really love the flexibility benefits, as well as the stability I get after a Pilates routine.

One question: I take the Anavar first thing in the morning, than eat after about 10 minutes. With the same meal I take my multivitamins, joint support supplement, about 2 g of Vitamin C, yohimbine HCL 2.5 mg . Would it be a better idea to take half the Anavar - oxandrolone - in the morning, half prior to workout?(i go to the gym in the afternoon for weight lifting)
Again, I'm experimenting with my diet, I'll slowly shift towards a higher amount of carbs with a cumulative increase in workouts intensity. I am not narrow minded, I have tried both ways and I will addapt my diet to my body's needs.

Now, back to study for my exams, catch up with you guys later! And, by the way, it feels great to be here!

I have heard that because anavar is water based it is better to take half dose AM and half dose PM (sort of like vitamin C). I don't really think there is any correlation between when you take an anabolic agent (as in the time of day) and strength in your workout. I think that may be largely placebo effect.

I understand about the whole *carb issue*, but not all carbs behave the same in our bodies. Meaning we don't all react the same and often times we may find that our "reactions" are again, anecdotal and not necessarily a true physical reaction. The mind is a very powerful organ. Try to find one source of complex carbohydrate that your body doesn't seem sensitive to: either oatmeal, brown rice, yam. Believe me when I tell you that you NEED comp carbs in order to develop your strength and mass. As your lean mass goes up so will your metabolism/fat burning capabilities and your bodyfat will go down. I promise you. That is not magic. It is simple science!

I don't recommend giving up pilates altogether as I think it is a good thing to have such strength and flexibility but your body needs TOTAL DAYS OF REST, as in NO WORKOUT in order to allow your body to recover. Even when I was training heaviest I would have at least 1/2 days off per week! More training is counterproductive. Try to structure the weight training/pilates/cardio in such a way that you have at least 2 days off per week from the gym. Your body needs this rest.

Now back to your studies!

 

[fit'in'romania]

I have heard that because anavar is water based it is better to take half dose AM and half dose PM (sort of like vitamin C). I don't really think there is any correlation between when you take an anabolic agent (as in the time of day) and strength in your workout. I think that may be largely placebo effect.

I understand about the whole *carb issue*, but not all carbs behave the same in our bodies. Meaning we don't all react the same and often times we may find that our "reactions" are again, anecdotal and not necessarily a true physical reaction. The mind is a very powerful organ. Try to find one source of complex carbohydrate that your body doesn't seem sensitive to: either oatmeal, brown rice, yam. Believe me when I tell you that you NEED comp carbs in order to develop your strength and mass. As your lean mass goes up so will your metabolism/fat burning capabilities and your bodyfat will go down. I promise you. That is not magic. It is simple science!

I don't recommend giving up pilates altogether as I think it is a good thing to have such strength and flexibility but your body needs TOTAL DAYS OF REST, as in NO WORKOUT in order to allow your body to recover. Even when I was training heaviest I would have at least 1/2 days off per week! More training is counterproductive. Try to structure the weight training/pilates/cardio in such a way that you have days off from the gym. Your body needs this rest.

Now back to your studies!

I hear you with complex carbs, and i'll take your advice. I'll fight my carb-addiction. Believe me, I can binge on oatmeal or boiled spinach, so trust me I'm crazy

The problem with getting half the week off training is delicate: I work in a gym and teach groups every day. Sometimes I can just talk them throughout their routine, sometimes I need to get my butt on and workout with them. Plus, I am so bad at doing cardio mornings, on an empty stomach and I fear that if I do cardio right after weight training I will start a catabolic process I so desperately try to avoid. But I'm determined to make a sacrifice and stick to the plan, so feel free to throw in any advice on workout, diet and rest, I'm more than open and willing to make everything work.

Now, back to dealing with obesity lol, certification exams

 

[Tatyana]

I'm sorry, I couldn't read anything after SOUR CREAM, YUM.

I am so freaking jonesing for perogies, they are going to be the first thing I eat after this comp. And a new Eastern European shop has opened in my neighbourhood so I don't have to eat my rubbish ones.

I will take a closer read of this later

HELLO and Welcome Anna

 

[fit'in'romania]

Hi Tatyana, and thanks for the welcome. Again, feels great to be here and openly discuss training issues.

Good luck with precomp preparation!

 

[Bikini Mod]

You know, as I was eating my breakfast of yummy soup my Old Grump (hubby) prepared last night I was thinking about Ms Romania ( ) being a student and remembered back to a time when I was competitive how we all got to the point of being "CARB DUMB" when we got to a certain point in our dieting for competition.

You know, the brain NEEDS food too, not just your muscles. How can a student have proper brain function if they do not take in enough complex carbohydrates necessary for optimal thought processes?

... just some more "food" for thought.

 

[fit'in'romania]

Hi there everyone, I did my first shoulder& tricep training after starting the cycle, and I was more than dissapointed...I couldn't focus at all, my mind was flying and the result was a mediocre training. Maybe I expect too much of myself and Var?

BikiniMom, I took your advice and increased carbs, in the morning and after workouts, as well as reducing the animal fat coming from diary products. I'll keep you updated with the results.

Have a wonderful week everyone, and best of all to you!

 

[Bikini Mod]

Hi there everyone, I did my first shoulder& tricep training after starting the cycle, and I was more than dissapointed...I couldn't focus at all, my mind was flying and the result was a mediocre training. Maybe I expect too much of myself and Anavar - oxandrolone - ?

BikiniMom, I took your advice and increased carbs, in the morning and after workouts, as well as reducing the animal fat coming from diary products. I'll keep you updated with the results.

Have a wonderful week everyone, and best of all to you!

First off, there is no need to down yourself because you didn't have "the best" workout. We can not always be 100% at all times. Also could be maybe sign of over-training/not enough carbs to feed your brain or just you were "off". We are all human.

Good on the increase carbs. I guarantee you will feel better, have more focus and feel increase in strenght which will allow better workouts = more lean mass gain = higher metabolic rate.

Remember, that A/S isn't *magic* (as so many are led to believe). If your diet is not in order and you don't allow enough rest + train TOO intensely you will not be happy with the end result.

Oh and please take pics of yourself. If not to share with the board then to track your own progress. You see yourself every day and may not notice changes. But when you look at a pic a month from now you will say, "DAYUM! LOOK AT ME!!!" I have found that pics are one of THE BEST motivators and good indicator of progress when our mind plays tricks with us.

 

[fit'in'romania]

First off, there is no need to down yourself because you didn't have "the best" workout. We can not always be 100% at all times. Also could be maybe sign of over-training/not enough carbs to feed your brain or just you were "off". We are all human.

Good on the increase carbs. I guarantee you will feel better, have more focus and feel increase in strenght which will allow better workouts = more lean mass gain = higher metabolic rate.

Remember, that A/S isn't *magic* (as so many are led to believe). If your diet is not in order and you don't allow enough rest + train TOO intensely you will not be happy with the end result.

Oh and please take pics of yourself. If not to share with the board then to track your own progress. You see yourself every day and may not notice changes. But when you look at a pic a month from now you will say, "DAYUM! LOOK AT ME!!!" I have found that pics are one of THE BEST motivators and good indicator of progress when our mind plays tricks with us.

Hi there, I know A/S is not a magic potion, nor do I expect it to be. As i said, as a certified personal trainer I know what it does and what it doesn't. I am also aware that, by increasing carbs from good sources I will benefit a lot, both mentally and physically.

What bothers me is that I don t seem to detach from all problems as I workout. I used to be able to focus 100%, right now there's a lot goin' on and my mind flies. I'll fight this and give it all to my workouts.

I'm also cutting down on my activity throughout the day, so that I can give it all to weightlifting and cardio. Tomorrow I'll go running in the park, I thought it's a nice change from the more than boring treadmill in the gym or my crosstrainer at home. I take an hour nap at noon too, after my workout.

So , here it is:

Monday: triceps, shoulder& chest

dips
tricep extension
front fly
lateral fly
shoulder press
upright row
bench press


Tuesday : cardio 40 mins, HIIT

Wednesday legs & low back

straight leg deadlifts
lunges
leg press
seated calves


thursday: cardio 40 mins, HIIT

Friday back&abs
Lat pulldown
bent-over row
crunches
hanging hip raises, with added weight


Saturday : Intermediate/Advanced Pilates class 1 hr

For each exercise I do 2 warm-up series, at 20 reps, then 10-8-6 reps sets, with stretching in between series . My workouts are intense, I spend no more than 50 minutes in the gym.

My problem is with my shoulders: somehow, my front delts refuse to grow! My arms grow, my legs grow like crazy, my back looks good to, even my abs are reasonable. But my shoulders are just killing me!

Feel free to give any advice on workouts, I've been cutting on series and reps until I got to this intensity and exercises, but if u got any other idea....

 

[Bikini Mod]

It's good to know that you are not a novice dabbling. I hope you didn't take offense by any of my comments. You will see that my advice is always conservative. I can't help it... I suppose that is the mother in me.

I can't sleep so I popped my head in but I wanted to let you know that.

I will give you more in depth reply to your last post when I can join *the living* and use more of my brain to help you gain your goals.

One thing I wanted to say, though, before I go back to bed you mentioned difficulty concentrating, perhaps other areas in your life are now taking over where training used to compensate or balance? And I noticed that you only have ONE DAY per week where you do not go to the gym.

You know the saying, "Men make plans and God laughs"?

I never competed in the last show I was supposed to do. I trained very hard for years and was throwing myself into this show to divert my attention from incredible life stress. I was in THE MOST AMAZING shape of my life, never again to be matched... but about 2 months before the show I had to quit and have surgery which caused a whole host of other problems aside from what it was supposed to correct not only physically but personally as well.

Maybe you are needing a little break from training altogether and can halt the cycle? Take a month off? And come back stronger than ever? Or perhaps this is just one of those moments in life where you just need a moment to reshuffle and refocus?

Either way - you know what is best for YOU...

I will share with you some training strategies that you might find helpfull after a few more hours sleep.

 

[fit'in'romania]

It's good to know that you are not a novice dabbling. I hope you didn't take offense by any of my comments. You will see that my advice is always conservative. I can't help it... I suppose that is the mother in me.

I can't sleep so I popped my head in but I wanted to let you know that.

I will give you more in depth reply to your last post when I can join *the living* and use more of my brain to help you gain your goals.

One thing I wanted to say, though, before I go back to bed you mentioned difficulty concentrating, perhaps other areas in your life are now taking over where training used to compensate or balance? And I noticed that you only have ONE DAY per week where you do not go to the gym.

You know the saying, "Men make plans and God laughs"?

I never competed in the last show I was supposed to do. I trained very hard for years and was throwing myself into this show to divert my attention from incredible life stress. I was in THE MOST AMAZING shape of my life, never again to be matched... but about 2 months before the show I had to quit and have surgery which caused a whole host of other problems aside from what it was supposed to correct not only physically but personally as well.

Maybe you are needing a little break from training altogether and can halt the cycle? Take a month off? And come back stronger than ever? Or perhaps this is just one of those moments in life where you just need a moment to reshuffle and refocus?

Either way - you know what is best for YOU...

I will share with you some training strategies that you might find helpfull after a few more hours sleep.

Hi BM, of course I didn't take anything persoanlly, and I am always open to learning. If I got certified 6 months ago doesn t mean I know the absolute truth on fitness&BB. I am here to learn. Hands-on experience cannot be matched by any book.

I am taking a week off during my trip to London, for yet another certification exam, so I hope this will help me regain my concentration.

I did go running today, for about 3.5 kilometers, out in the open. It's nothing compared to the treadmill, I returned home deepy relaxed and happy. I'll get an hour nap in the afternoon and then back to work. I increased the carbs from oatmeal and spinach, carefully monitoring the grams of both carbs and fat. Also, I started taking body shot pictures, but since there's nobody around to take them for me, they look quite awkward, as I pose in front of the mirror and take the shots like this.

And yes, I suppose I'm a bit of a gym addict. That environment makes me feel safe and strong. I decided to break the cycle and start running in the open, as well as leaving Sunday for rest. It's one thing I haven't done in almost 10 years. I've constantly trained in the gym, ignoring the outside potential all together.

Once again, thanks BM for taking the time to answer my posts, I truly appreciate the generosity. I know how time-consuming this can be, so this means even more.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I am not a fan of running as it is very catabolic and taxing on your joints. But if it makes you feel better then I won't tell you not to do it. Just try to keep it at a minimum. Outdoor activities are always good for the mind and spirit.

I learned the hard way that it is better to take your energy and put most into weight-training leaving the *extra* for cardio. Honestly, the most intense cardio I have done in preparation for a show... WALKING ON A TREADMILL... I am not lying. That is the truth. I have also done spinning, kick-boxing and now focus on aquatics. I get bored with cardio (honestly - I HATE IT LOL) so I am always looking for better ways to build that mousetrap.

Are you familiar with the super-sets, drop-sets, giant sets, and pre-exhaustion?

And I don't mind trying to help out. It brings me tremendous pleasure to see others excel.

 

[2raptors]

HIIT cardio is all you need...but there is nothing wrong with a run in the park once in a while.... I've even entered little races just for fun. Watch the knees...looks like you are on a good routine!

you are a CPT? Interesting.....

 

[superqt4u2nv]

You know, as I was eating my breakfast of yummy soup my Old Grump (hubby) prepared last night I was thinking about Ms Romania ( ) being a student and remembered back to a time when I was competitive how we all got to the point of being "CARB DUMB" when we got to a certain point in our dieting for competition.

You know, the brain NEEDS food too, not just your muscles. How can a student have proper brain function if they do not take in enough complex carbohydrates necessary for optimal thought processes?

... just some more "food" for thought.

Sorry but that is rubbish I have been running on 30ish grams of carb for months now and my brain functions just fine. The first week on a low carb dieting is an adjustment but after that it smooth sailing. If the goal is to gain this yes I do believe you need carbs but to cut no not in the least bit more often the not they hinder progress at least in my personal experience.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Sorry but that is rubbish I have been running on 30ish grams of carb for months now and my brain functions just fine. The first week on a low carb dieting is an adjustment but after that it smooth sailing. If the goal is to gain this yes I do believe you need carbs but to cut no not in the least bit more often the not they hinder progress at least in my personal experience.

QT - your brains NEED carbs to properly function. I was carb dumb on way more than one occasion and so was every competitor I knew who ridiculously slashed their carbs for any extended period of time.

Maybe you just have more brains than us to begin with? (When we are talking about me... that is 100% likely! )

Besides, when you cut that drastically it is not for a long term benefit, but to look a certain way for a very small window of time, a window so small in fact that it takes lots of competitors several competitions to dial it in "just right".

IMO to advocate this type of diet for a long term goal, especially (as you already pointed out) when we are talking about gaining mass being the priority not only is this not necessary, but it is counterproductive as well.

BTW - AWESOME AVI!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

QT - your brains NEED carbs to properly function. I was carb dumb on way more than one occasion and so was every competitor I knew who ridiculously slashed their carbs for any extended period of time.

Maybe you just have more brains than us to begin with? (When we are talking about me... that is 100% likely! )

Besides, when you cut that drastically it is not for a long term benefit, but to look a certain way for a very small window of time, a window so small in fact that it takes lots of competitors several competitions to dial it in "just right".

IMO to advocate this type of diet for a long term goal, especially (as you already pointed out) when we are talking about gaining mass being the priority not only is this not necessary, but it is counterproductive as well.

BTW - AWESOME AVI!

Thanks The bran only needs something like 20 grams of carbs to function normally. Most often people who feel dumb because they are carb deprived are dumb. I kid on that part but seriously the problem comes in when people keep there carbs low say around 60-100 grams too much to keep your body in ketosis. Just an FYI but like every other cutting cycle I have ever done I put on mucle could just be my superior genetics not sure.

 

[fit'in'romania]

Guys, I'm losing my voice!!!! WTF????

I speak a lot,I agree, but I'm losing my voice, I feel like I'm having a sore throat, but it's not the case.... Do I stop the var?

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Guys, I'm losing my voice!!!! WTF????

I speak a lot,I agree, but I'm losing my voice, I feel like I'm having a sore throat, but it's not the case.... Do I stop the Anavar - oxandrolone - ?

Yes if you don't want your voice to drop or get worse then yes do. This is a risk reward thing as a female there is always risk involved when taking AS. I would get the var test as well kind of rare that there would issues on lower dose like that 5-10mg but never know it is a very individual thing how you react.

 

[Mandy Polk]

I was about to say something about potential damage to your thyroid until I read that you found you already had problems. That makes perfect sense.

Your T4 levels drop because of your ketogenic diet. You need to up your carbs STAT or you will be facing some more long-term metabolic disruptions. It's real, it happens, and it sucks.

There is no way you're doing a real HIIT session if you can sustain it for 40 minutes. You're probably interval training, which I think is actually more beneficial than true HIIT because it's not as taxing on the CNS.

I would advise you consider extending the period of your cycle. There's not much benefit to a cycle of Anavar that's six weeks long.. I would suggest ten weeks. Having one day at 10mg's won't serve you. I know it seems you would want to take more on the day you're working the hardest, but hormones don't exactly work that way. And with that line of thinking, you're assuming that you're not growing the day AFTER you train legs. Which I know you know isn't the case.

I don't think you're overtraining, but I do think you're overdoing the pilates. It's not hurting you, but it's taking time that can be applied to other facets of your training or resting.

Also, I would up your training to 4x/wk.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Those who are better in the know could you please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that Anavar had no sides for females especially at that low dose?

 

[2raptors]

Yeah...I read that too....

-S-...the girl side of 2raptors

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Those who are better in the know could you please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that Anavar had no sides for females especially at that low dose?

Not always true depends on the person and there sensativity levels. I had sides similar near the end of my first cycle around week 10ish but I also found out the var I had was over dosed 20mg instead of 10 no wonder I got so dam strong so fast. Anyway it was more the build up over time that caused it after i dropped it the horse tightness went away but that is not always the case it is risk reward there is nothing 100% side effect free.