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My routine...comments & suggestions please.

Puddles

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Please let me know if this seems right. I'm in my 3rd month now (started to notice strength gains again this past week) and have just added wrist curls because much of my failure on upper body excercises is because of forearm pain. I try to shoot for 3 sets of 12 reps per excercise...if it's not difficult at the 10th rep I will increase weight for the next set (I'm keeping a journal with comments if that day's weight was heavy or light). Any comments will be appreciated. We (hubby's training me) will substitute a similar excercise for a body part every couple of weeks but this is what I did this past week...

Day 1 - Back/Triceps

Close Grip Pulldowns
90/12, 90/12, 90/12

Hammerstrength High Row
90/12, 100/12, 100/12

Skull Crushers on Smith Machine
20/12, 25/12, 25/12

Lying Tricep Extension Dumbell
8/12, 8/12, 10/12

Cable Tricep Pulldown
20/12, 20/12, 20/12

T-Bar Rows *
25/12, 25/12, 25/12

* or

Gravitron Wide Grip Pull-Ups
Lowering assistence gradually…3 sets of 12 or until failure…usually struggling around 10th rep.

Day 2 - Abs, Shoulders & Forearms

Rotary Torso
Right to Left 60/12, 60/12, 60/12
Left to Right 60/12, 60/12, 60/12

Nautilus Ab Machine
80/12, 80/12, 80/12

Side Bends (no weight)
Right Side 25, 25, 25
Left Side 25, 25, 25

Rear Delts on Reverse Pec Deck
50/12, 50/12, 50/12

Nautilus Overhead Press
60/12, 60/10, 60/12

Dumbell Shoulder Laterals
10/12, 10/12, 10/12

Dumbell Wrist Curls (just added in)
Inner 10/20, 10/20, 10/20
Outer 10/15, 10/15, 10/15

Day 3 - Chest & Biceps

Incline Dumbell Flys
20/12, 22.5/12, 22.5/12

Smith Machine Flat Bench (or Olympic Freeweight Flat Bench…just learning)
50/12, 50/12, 50/12

Cable Crossovers
30/12, 35/12, 35/11

Hammerstrength Curl
35/10, 35/6->25/4, 25/10 (heavy)

Standing Dumbell Curl
15/12, 15/12, 15/12

Cable Curls with EZ Curl Bar
50/12, 50/12, 50/12

Day 4 - Legs

Hack Squat
50/12, 50/12, 50/12

Leg Extensions
95/12, 95/12, 95/12

Hip Abduction
65/12 80/12 80/12

Hip Adduction
110/12, 125/12, 125/12

Seated Leg Curls
95/12, 95/1,2 95/12

Seated Calf (both legs at the same time)
90/12, 90/12, 90/11

Free Motion Calf
Right 400/9, 340/12, 360/12
Left 400/9, 340/12, 360/12
Was finding a good weight…360 or 380 seems best.

Butt Blaster
50/12, 50/12, 50/12

Day 5 - Abs Only

Nautilus Ab Machine
80/12, 80/12, 80/12

Suspended Leg Raises/Alternate Sides or Middle
3 sets until failure…usually around 25-30 reps each set…I fail because I get weak suspending myself up on my arms.

Crunches
3 sets until failure…usually 30-35 reps each set, nose pointed straight up looking at ceiling.
 
i'm no expert in any way shape or form, but the leg day looks like its missing some stuff, and needs more weight. i don't see much ham work.

also on the leg extensions, a nice variation is to do single leg extensions....i do single leg with 75 lbs for 8-10 reps each leg, two sets and then both legs 150 for last set. it gets a nice burn going.

i also don't see any trap work mixed in there either, or delts either for that matter.
 
I just grazed over it, but you are doing 4 straight workout days with no rest? and you are doing shoulders the day before Chest? and you are doing chest the day before legs? also, regarding the forearms, I think you are just getting a pump in them, I don't think working your forearms will help the massive flow of blood that you are feeling in them. Just some observations :)
 
BrickGirl said:
I just grazed over it, but you are doing 4 straight workout days with no rest? and you are doing shoulders the day before Chest? and you are doing chest the day before legs? also, regarding the forearms, I think you are just getting a pump in them, I don't think working your forearms will help the massive flow of blood that you are feeling in them. Just some observations :)


Brickgirl, whats your split?
 
Tex...

Thank you...

Traps: I do upright rows on the Smith Machine, we just didn't get them done this past week. Hubby does shrugs too...should I be adding them in for myself? He wasn't sure about how much trap work I should be doing.

Delts:
Rear Delts on Reverse Pec Deck
50/12, 50/12, 50/12

Legs...95 lbs. with both legs is as much as I can do right now...I actually just upped it this past week and by the 8th rep I was BURNING. I do like the idea of doing them seperately...he does it that way at times.

I do all of my reps slowly. Most days it takes us about 2 hrs. to get through it all (not including cardio which we usually do at home).

Hamstrings...we do seated leg curls and hack squats...should I be doing someting else?

Also...is there a way to help prevent nausia? Some days I'll get so ill...I finish my work-out but damn! Some days it'll be really bad and others it's not much of a problem at all. I think it's worst for me on leg days.

Brick...no, not 5 days in a row...more like 2 days on, a day off, 3 days on, a day off. Hubby explained to me why he prefers this order (shoulders before chest) but I forget now. Arghhhh! I'll ask him tonight. The forearms absolutely kill me in some excersizes and I wind up not feeling it where I should because the pain in my forearms is too great. Do you think it's something I'll just get used to and I should stop the wrist curls?

Makedah...Buttblaster gets glutes and hamstrings I think. I'm on all fours then one leg pressing up and away from me from behind. I feel it mostly in the back of my thigh.

Geez...there is SO MUCH to learn! :) I keep looking at the anatomy pictures on the machines. LOL


OK...gotta scoot now...soccer game for the kids this afternoon!
 
TEXgrl said:



Brickgirl, whats your split?

I do:

monday: chest
tuesday: biceps/triceps
wednesday:off but do calves
thursday:legs
friday: shoulders
saturday: back
sunday: off

abs i do 3 minutes everyday
 
how does this look to you?

Sun : Legs, including calves
mon: Back and chest, traps
tues: cardio or off day
wed: bi's tri's delts
thur or friday is off day, depending on mood, and another cardio day
 
Hey Puddles,

The only thing i would suggest is maybe start working some more freeweight exercises in and reduce the reliance on machines and cables. When starting out it's cool to use machines just to get your body into the groove, but the benefit which free weights provide over cables and machines is like night and day IMO.

By using free weights, you will also notice your grip strength will increase dramatically, because you have no mechanical advantage to asist you.

If your forearms are proving that much of a problem for you, use straps, particularly for your back work.
 
spatts said:
Ms. Puddles, what's your goal? Are you looking to put on some size? To maintain and just feel better? Get strnger? Not that you have to choose, but what's most important to you right now?

My goal is to be porpotionately muscular, stronger but not very big in overall size. "Not big" meaning with my height of 5'3 I'd like to be at a lower bf%, I'm assuming around 17% is something I could keep at regularly, and weigh around 135. I'm at 141.5 lbs today, I know I need to loose about 15 lbs of fat (maybe more...I'll know once I get there), which would put me around 126, and replace the weight with about 10 lbs of muscle. I want to continue feel and look good. I've been overweight all of my life and am now enjoying the benefits of being healthier thanks to clean eating and good excersize.

I'll be awaiting your words of wisdom, Spatts! Thanks. :)
 
vinylgroover said:
Hey Puddles,

The only thing i would suggest is maybe start working some more freeweight exercises in and reduce the reliance on machines and cables. When starting out it's cool to use machines just to get your body into the groove, but the benefit which free weights provide over cables and machines is like night and day IMO.

By using free weights, you will also notice your grip strength will increase dramatically, because you have no mechanical advantage to asist you.

If your forearms are proving that much of a problem for you, use straps, particularly for your back work.

We just started some bench presses...I'm shaky but I'll learn control soon I hope! Being able to do free weights makes me feel stronger than just using the machines.

Hubby suggested some wristwraps a couple of weeks ago...we just haven't gone to get them yet. I did get gloves for my hands to help prevent callousses...I'm such a girl! LOL

Thanks, Vinyl. ;)
 
MrsPuddlesFL said:


We just started some bench presses...I'm shaky but I'll learn control soon I hope! Being able to do free weights makes me feel stronger than just using the machines.

Hubby suggested some wristwraps a couple of weeks ago...we just haven't gone to get them yet. I did get gloves for my hands to help prevent callousses...I'm such a girl! LOL

Thanks, Vinyl. ;)


Stcik to barbells and dumbells and you'll be untstoppable Puddles.

Cool, just add wrist straps to the shopping list after the stool and full length mirror ;)
 
starfish said:
Puddles...

What program did you follow when started in order to lose weight? Dietwise...

This is basicly how I've been eating for the past year:

Breakfast:

2 big cups of coffee with about a cup of skim or 2% milk and fat free coffee mate and splenda (I know this has a lot of carbs and coffee's not good but I simply can not kick my coffee addiction and I like it light and sweet.)

and about 2 hrs. later...

A protein shake (lean body for her with water now...I was using something else that had more carbs and fat)

or

A piece of multigrain bread.

or

oatmeal made with water (rarely though...it tastes like shit)

or

egg beaters


Snack (some days, not all days):

about 2 to 4 oz. grilled chicken or lean steak burger, depending on how hungry I am

Lunch:

4-6 oz. Protein on a salad (grilled chicken, burger, canned chicken, tuna, salmon) with about 2 tsp. raspberry vinnagrette dressing. If I didn't have a snack, sometimes I'll add a piece of that multigrain bread.

Snack:

2-4 oz. protein (chicken or burger) on a night when I'm home

or

protein shake (on a night I've gone to the gym)

Dinner:

4-6 oz. protein with veggies, usually broccoli

Snack:

If it's late and I'm still hungry I'll have a rice cake or a piece of multigrain bread or a little more protein, depending on what else I've eaten during the day.

Water: I drink 3/4 to 1 1/4 gal/day...wish I could manage more.

I average one cheat meal a week...sometimes pizza, sometimes something healthier, sometimes something worse. I had cheesecake last week and it was delicious! I was induldging and had spent a relaxing day at the spa and shopping with a friend.
 
naaa....2 tsp. is just right...the raspberry wallnut vinnagrette dressing, made by Ken's Steakhouse, is very strong in taste...it's especially great to cover up the taste of the tuna and I put it on my salad before I cut it up into the tiniest pieces...like chopped onion size pieces so the flavor gets mixed in very well. Try that specific dressing...at least once and let me know what you think!
 
makedah said:
Only 2 tsp. dressing? My WORD! I'd rather eat it dry. That'd be JUST enough dressing to frustrate me!!! :bawling:

here's a cool trick for salads....get your dressing on the side and dip your fork in the dressing, just to lightly coat it on the tips and then poke your salad, you get a little taste of dressing in every bite, but don't go thru much.
 
Thanks to everyone for their comments and suggestions. :)

Spatts, MUCHO thanks to you for your insight! You said, "Remember that machines like the ab/adductor kind of appease that portion of the gym crowd that still believes you can target burn body fat. If you truly want to strengthen those muscles, you will want to do those moves with your hips lower than your knees, something those machines aren't designed for. " What specific excercises would you suggest that I do?

I looked at a lot of the video clips that you did, too. I like the seated squat idea and will try to remember your form when I do them! Hubby's been good at keeping me in line. LOL We both like your split ideas, but our schedules are so wacked that our off days are when we need them, so they will varry, but we liked the overall order.

I had to laugh when I read this, "I am imagining you laying on a chest supported t bar row, trying to work your back after ab day, and having the pad KILL to lay on. " I get so sick to my stomach when I do this excercise! Maybe moving it to another day will help.

Veggie...you have no idea how your comment made my day! I am enjoying looking better as you can probably tell by my avatars. LOL
 
Side lunge is good for the adductors. Lunges are a great overall leg exercise, which you should incorporate Puddles.

Chest supported T-bar row is hard work on the chest. No reason why you can't replace it with barbell rows which is a great overall back builder.

Puddles, from the pics i've seen, you have a head start with your legs. You are blessed with beautiful shape in your legs and good 'natural' musculature.
 
Thanks again for the suggestions. We have the newer Arnold Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding and hubby suggested I look through there to find some stuff to add into our routine. I like it when he reads the book to me...with Arnold's accent. LOL

I've been fortunate...my muscles seem to be responding well considering how little work I've done so far. We added shoulder shrugs last night and I'm in agony already this morning! :) I showed hubby where I'm sore and he said GOOD! I apparently hit them right. I started with 45 lbs for the first two sets then did the last set at 55 and failed at 9 reps because I couldn't hold onto the dumbells...I gotta get those straps!

Spatts...you said, "For ab/ad I use a mini band doubled around my knees, and sit on a low box or aerobic step. You can also do kicks with bands or a cable. " Can you help me out and be more specific about how to use the bands and do the movements?

I'll get a check in the mail for your personal trainer's fee. hehehe Hey, maybe I'm onto something with that...we could set up a website where you offer personal training online for a fee.

Thanks again for your help.
 
Thank you...I'm gonna be looking those over this weekend. Where do they sell bands? I'm assuming Sports Authority would have them...and the wristwraps.
 
OK...sure...confuse me in my altered state of mind! (Damn mind erasers! LOL) Tomorrow I'll take a look at Sports Authorithy and if I don't find them maybe you can post a url for me to order from.
 
vinylgroover said:
The only thing i would suggest is maybe start working some more freeweight exercises in and reduce the reliance on machines and cables.
Absolutely ditto. The less machine & cable, the better. Didn't read every word of this thread, but I bet you got lots of good ideas for variety already - like diamond pushups instead of tricep cable pushdowns, or bench dips - progressing to bench dips if they don't bother your shoulders. I really think it's best to base a routine on a foundation of freeweights & incorporate cables & machines only as occasionaly variety.

In my scanning - I didn't see much discussion of lifting straps (as opposed to wrist wraps). I've heard often that if you never start using them, you won't need them. I don't necessarily think that's true. If you want to compete in PL, you CAN'T use them in competition, so they are not an option. If you want to be sure you have strong & thick forearms, don't use them. But for the most part - it's FINE to use them, my former Olympic Weightlifting coach used them for shrugs & clean pulls. Obviously his traps & hams, respectively, were MUCH stronger than his grip - so to exhaust those muscles, he'd use the straps. You don't need to hold on to heavy weights for any significant time period in Olympic lifting anyway.
 
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