My Quest to COMPETE - BEAT THE DISEASE!

[JKurz1]

The best thing for mass in terms of training is to progressively get better at lifts. Of course, if you aren't eating a caloric surplus, you aren't gonna put on any mass.

I've trained the DL for triples, I've rained it with 5's, singles, and even 8's. The important thing is progress. 10x3 will work for so long, then it'll stop, if it didn't, we'd all be deadlifting 10,000lbs after 5 years of training it. After several weeks of 10x3, it'll plateau, then try another rep range, say 4x8, you should be stronger at 4x8 then, than you are now, build it progressively until you stall, then make another tweak....This is an ART, not an exact science.....train the right stuff in a progressive fashion and ingest enough calories, and you've got 99% of it covered, don't worry about the 1% that doesn't matter, yet most people love to agonize over......when you ant to cut, still try to train heavy and progressively, just hit caloric deficit, that's 99% of cutting......it is all hard work, but it is simple in concept....and the modern "Bodybuilding industry" as overcomplicated it with deception and outright lies.

so if I did 5x5 last week and the week before, it would be a good idea for a 10x3 week maybe 2, then id be stronger at 5x right?

sure this for mass vs. strength?

 

[Neo22]

so if I did 5x5 last week and the week before, it would be a good idea for a 10x3 week maybe 2, then id be stronger at 5x right?

sure this for mass vs. strength?

Me personally i would try to get at least 5's but biggt is right. Just try it and see if it works. You will gain strength. Then you can come back and do higher reps at more weight for more hypertrophy.

 

[JKurz1]

Me personally i would try to get at least 5's but biggt is right. Just try it and see if it works. You will gain strength. Then you can come back and do higher reps at more weight for more hypertrophy.

give me your layout bro

155x8
185x8
255x6
265x6
280x4-5
310x2-3


how it look?>

 

[BiggT]

Jeff, progress is what matters, not doing something 'new'.....I make changes out of necessity, never for the sake of change. If you feel you can still add weight to the bar with 5's, keep milking it for all it's worth......as your 5's go up, what you can handle for 8 will go up, when the 5's plateau, deload the deadlift (skip DLing for a week or 2) then come back to 4x8, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

[JKurz1]

roger....my weigfht is severly dropping so that's really where I need to do some LIFTING!! Damn it....like 165 today never even close to 168 all week....

Here's what I'll try.....

155x8
185x8
235x5
255x6
265x6
280x4-5
310x2

 

[BiggT]

That is a progressive layout, brother, and at the end you'll be better than you were last week, and the week before that......as for the bodyweight, you just need to lift the fork to your mouth, you know that.

 

[BiggT]

This might keep you straight and motivated, come join the fun

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=515319

EDIT....nevermind, I saw you already found it, lol....I guess i am the only one who just noticed.

 

[JKurz1]

Oh fuck me.....not only did I treat 280x5 like my bitch (as 135x10, 185x8, 235x5, 255x5,
265x5, then 280....I cranked a 325x1 and help for approx 3.5 hours.....maybe longer lol).....Im bloated and full, I gotta stay well fed this weekend...teetering on 164 this am...pathetic!

However, my goal, 2x bodyweightin all big 3....possible, right? Big 4...is deads, squats, bench and FORK!!!!!!!!!!

 

[solidspine]

JKurz1

164

How tall are you?

 

[Neo22]

Oh fuck me.....not only did I treat 280x5 like my bitch (as 135x10, 185x8, 235x5, 255x5,
265x5, then 280....I cranked a 325x1 and help for approx 3.5 hours.....maybe longer lol).....Im bloated and full, I gotta stay well fed this weekend...teetering on 164 this am...pathetic!

However, my goal, 2x bodyweightin all big 3....possible, right? Big 4...is deads, squats, bench and FORK!!!!!!!!!!

good deal keep hitting that shit up and eating