My oral 1-test ether experience so far

[plornive]

I am using S.A.N. T-100, which is oral 1-test ether, 100mg per capsule. I started with 4 capsules per day, taken with some fat. I moved to 7 per day for two days and am now back at 5 per day. It is my 8th day on it, and I am trying to cut. However, this 1-test seems to make me too lethargic to do cardio in the morning. I have an incredible pump and I am thicker than I have been in a long time. Actual strength has not gone up that much. My appetite is pretty high, though, which is not great for cutting. I am taking triac and ECA simultaneously, which is helping me to actually drop in weight while maintaining a pretty damn good pump, though. This is pretty amazing.

I'm thinking of finishing this cycle at 3 weeks, and maybe a month later doing a cycle of 3-alpha to finish my cutting phase. I have to take a break in the middle for jaw surgery. It seems like 1-test is more suited to clean bulking, instead of actual cutting.

 

[triggerfinger]

some stats please

Starting weight? Height

Calorie intake and ratios when you started.

good luck! 1-t will make you feel Lethargic. Gotta get to the gym anyway. No pain no gain


I am planning to cut using 1-test starting in May. Iam about 210 (today) 6'1 with a 34.5 inch waist.( Not sure of bf but maybe around 12-14% My goal is to get down to a 33 inch waist at about 195.
I belive that the 1-test will help spare muscle. I have been eating about 3000 cal per day and am maintaining weight. I am starting to slowly reduce calories ( about 250 per week) and at about 2000 ( May ?)I will start with 1-test and some kind of eca and clean up my diet. Maybe 60p/30c/10f.I will also add in Cardio

 

[plornive]

160lbs, 8% bf, 5'10". Yes, light, but I like to stay very lean.

I'm cutting, so I eat 2400 cal per day. 50% p, 30% c, 20% f. I eat lots of whey, tofu, tuna, egg-whites, oat bran, berries, peanut butter, fish oil, and Udo's Choice blend. You may wonder why I'm cutting, but I want to get to 6% bodyfat without losing too much muscle. I don't care about mass very much, and the strength of my lifts might surprise you (bench 225). I'm hoping to not lose any strength.

I train 4-5 days per week, and am doing cardio 5 mornings per week on an empty stomach for 30-45 minutes.

I am not impressed at all with my results from SAN T-100. Check this thread and look for my post near the bottom: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=211381#post211381

 

[wardog]

Well let me chime in here. I usually post on another forum, but I am having a similar experience with 1-test ether..so I thought I would share. I am currently on animals diet, ALA, T-2 and an ECA stack. I ran it for 2 weeks without the 1-test and had good results.

Two weeks ago, I added in 1-test ether dissolved in sesame seed oil. I take 400mg 1-test a day this way (100mg 4x a day), and am NOT impressed. I have the same lethargic feeling, and do not feel like the 1-test is doing much of anything. I have cut before on fina, (trenbolone) and can say from MY experience, anyone who compares 1-test to tren is kidding themselves, at least from a cutting perspective. Perhaps it is a good bulking supplement, and I will try it this fall transdermally as a bulking supplement, but as far as using it while cutting, I am honestly quite disappointed.

 

[MWB]

You guys are getting tired from low estrogen levels. Try stacking 1-test with 4-ad. It should help out a bit.

 

[ravensfanxxxv]

You guys are getting tired from low estrogen levels. Try stacking 1-test with 4-ad. It should help out a bit.

I have never seen anything said about low estrogen levels making someone tired. Where did you read this?

 

[plornive]

I could handle being tired if results came with it. I have the stamina and will power to get myself to workout even when I feel like sleeping. I was hoping the 1-test would partially eliminate any estrogen and maintain my muscle mass while cutting. Maybe I haven't given it enough of a chance, but I don't think I will continue with it right now.

Like wardog said, I think it is best used for bulking.

I think I may try 3-alpha for cutting sometime.

 

[wardog]

You guys are getting tired from low estrogen levels. Try stacking 1-test with 4-ad. It should help out a bit.

Agreed, but then your dealing with a bloating issue from the 4-ad..not exactly what you want when cutting. Bulking..yes, cutting, NO

 

[plornive]

wardog,
Have you experienced any change in estrogen levels? Could it be that the ostracized testosterone naturally produced by the body becomes free all at once and aromatizes? Would that make sense? In that case, I would just have to wait until my natural production shut down.

 

[wardog]

I know for myself, moods have not changed (I get serious blues when my estrogen levels rise..I have seen it after a fina cycle) and I have seen nothing. No added agression, or blues..so NOTHING but tired. Sex drive has been the same as always..so again, no indicators that this stuff is doing much of anything.

Overall, it is like I am not taking anything..that is all I can say.

 

[notpuff]

Well not meaning to flame but many people stated that the 1-test ether version sux , also how many times have you taken trenbolone ether orally in sesame oil?

 

[plornive]

Well not meaning to flame but many people stated that the 1-test ether version sux , also how many times have you taken trenbolone ether orally in sesame oil?

That is so very irrellevant. It was thought that it's absorption rate was too low. However, it obviously absorbed into my bloodstream, so that is not the question here.

 

[notpuff]

Its very relevant its just like with 4ad, 4ad oral sucks yet when injected rox

 

[plornive]

Is that related to absorption? If so, it is irrelevant.

 

[rush]

Bros just be very careful with that 1 test, it really played havoc
on my hairline!!!!

 

[Par Deus]

That is so very irrellevant. It was thought that it's absorption rate was too low.

PA and Bill Roberts have both stated that they would expect tren to have decent oral bioavailability.

 

[wardog]

I am certainly not here to argue, just to pass on my information. Some people are claiming an equal to, or higher rate of absorption with 1-test ether in sesamee as opposed to transdermal. I ordered 1-test from kilo when they only had the ether. I have since then gotten 20 grams of the base as well for a future bulking cycle. In the essance of real life experience, I decided to try the 1-test ether in sesame. I am just saying, for myself, as one who has used tren for cutting, I am feeling nothing, and finding no advantages to using this formulation. Thats it..nothing more.

As far as injecting it..please. If I am going to ride the spike, it will be tren and test..NOT screwing around with some prohormone/supposed legal steroid. As I said, I have heard 1-test ether in sesame compared to primo. All I am stating..so that OTHERS have some additional knowledge, is that for me..this formulation has done nothing. This fall, I will be trying 1-test transdermal. At that point, I will provide my opinion on that, fairly and openly.