my next juicy cycle

[stevesmi]

I decided I am gonna venture into the tren world. however popping my tren cherry I am gonna do a conservative cycle. this is what my plan is.

tren ace 100mg EOD for weeks 1-6
masteron 100mg EOD weeks 6-9
test (long esther) weeks 1-9, with the esthers included will push me to 12 weeks.
dostinex/cabaser small dose with tren every 4 days.

hcg low dose weeks 3-9, then high dose 9-12. followed by 2 shots of HMG, and 6 weeks of clomid at 25mg ED, then unleashed/post cycle.

its not a crazy cycle but i should get some outstanding results. I want to run the tren and masteron separate, i know guys like to run them together.. why? because I like to experiment and see what kind of results I get with both by themselves.. with the short esthers with both I should get a clear answer.
right now I am all natty and my gains have become stagnant although I am busting my ass in the gym. had a guy few days ago tell me "all that juice you are doing is going to your head, I used to play baseball I can tell by looking at you that you are taking dbol" I told his smart ass that I wasn't taking a thing right now, i got a kick out of the whole arguement. he didn't believe me but i was like okay. anyway if people are gonna think I am on steroids, i might as well be on them right? lol

this is a rough sketch, I have spent months thinking and studying and reading you guys comments.. I am all ears to hear others opinions.

thoughts? comments?

for the noobs who haven't followed me. I've run 2 deca cycles, and a primo cycle. all have been 8-10 weeks long. i've also nibbled with dbol, drol, and have experimented with several different PCT's.
5'6" 182 pounds.. 14% bf. early 30's.

goal is to get stronger and put on more muscle while keeping my bf% constant or lowering it.

 

[RADAR]

sounds like a good idea steve ,good luck,the tren is short enough recovery should be a snap! is it tren ACE?

 

[stevesmi]

^^ yes its ace.

and if it gives me any trouble I have no problem just stopping it and just going with masteron instead. its gonna be an interesting experience.

PCT is gonna be uberaggressive. i'm not messing around with this one.

 

[Arabian]

Tren Ace is a short ester and the only way I go Steve. I would not recommend going over 100 EOD due to sides however you will love it. I never have run it with Mast however I run it with Test E and its fantastic. Keep us updated.

 

[chesty]

I have run tren e with masteron e and test along with some other stuff. I didn't mind the sides, but they aren't light either. You gotta have fortitude. If I may, I would run the mast for the whole cycle and and in test. I had a friend who did tren only and it shut him down quick. And another who was running test that was under-dosed it fucked with him too. I'm not saying what you have planned out is bad at all, but my personal preference is to use test with it and the mast as I suggested.

 

[stevesmi]

thanks arab. I will update you guys as always.

and from the research i've done i agree that ace is the better way to go. if anything if the sides are too bad I can always drop the dose or stop it altogether and the esthers will be out fast. i'm most excited about masteron too, think it will be nice icing on the cake.

Chesty: thats awesome man, thanks for your opinion. I am still debating this cycle. i still have a couple months before it gets started so I am still soliticing ideas and opinions. you are right, my last cycle my test was underdosed when i changed brands towards the end of it (wont mention the brand, dont want to break any rules) but lets just say i wont be using them again and it wasn't fun at all. the test will be run weeks 1-9 so i should be covered.. i've got 2 different brands so if 1 fails me then i will switch to the other.. but i am confident in both

 

[-SD-]

14% ?

may want to lower that also bor

 

[chesty]

Body fat not a problem. My last cycle I started at 18% and ended at 8%.

 

[Arabian]

14% ?

may want to lower that also bor

Hes actually at an advantage running tren with that BF , because Tren will shred him up and make him huge at that size. Remember Dave, Tren was a steroid that was originally designed to put lean muscle mass on cattle and it worked so well , it became a staple in the meat community. Tren is awesome

 

[stevesmi]

I was 6-7% bodyfat before my 2 deca cycles... thats what happens when you run 40 miles per week. but I just didn't have the mass, more of a runners look with lean muscle.