My New Cycle....What do ya think?

[dougmug]

My 5th cycle (my second one in the last 13 years)
6'5" 235lbs 38 years old


Eq weeks 1-16 400-600mg week
NPP (Nandrolone Phenylpropionate) weeks 1-12 400mg week
T-bol 40-50mg daily (oral) for first 28 days
Winny 50-100mg daily(oral) last 4 weeks
Also going to run low dose of Test E
PCT: clomid, nolva, clen, creatine (considering hcg)

My goal is to add 15 lbs of quality muscle and lose 3-5% body fat.

QUESTION: How would you split up the shots for this cycle weekly?

 

[chaquito]

if your goal is to pack on some quality muscle then you should concentrate on test bro. if your goal is to loose som BF then you should follow a good diet and do your androgens for avoiding muscleloss. its is very difficult to both gain muscle and loose fat, unless you are a genetic freak. you cycle is to complicated, i think you should choose either EQ or NPP. i have use NPP with dianabol (no test) before with very good results.

good luck

 

[Throw2Far]

I would drop the EQ for Enanthate, and skip winstrol. Why add a weak anabolic when you are working with test/nandrolone/turin already. Plus I hate the backpumps/jointpain.

600mg Enanthate week 1-16
600mg NPP week 1-16
Tbol 50mg Day 1-28

You should be able to pack on serious muscle with this. If not then its your diet/training/cardio, not your AAS. Clean bulk for 12 weeks and then diet for 4 weeks, losing 2 lbs a week. Then at week 17 go to above maintenence.

PS Id go Dbol over Tbol hands down.

 

[bigtravis]

definately drop the e.q. for test. try prop with the npp. great results.

 

[trinidad]

NPP is a short acting ester and requires frequent injections. Eq has a long ester so it wouldn't do you much good to stop the npp 4 wks. before the eq, then start pct 2 wks later. The timing of that is all wrong. I'd go prop/Npp as well for 8 wks, both are quick acting esters and short half lives so post can start sooner to keep gains. If you're going to stick to the gear you mentioned, run the test/eq 1-12 and the npp
6-14. Keep the tbol/winny the same.

 

[Outtlaw]

You know, I really dont understand peoples mentallity sometimes when it comes to cycling. Why would you want to run NPP for 16wks when you could get by so much easier with the regular deca?? I mean, we have people wanting to run suspension and prop for 12wks straight!! I just dont get it.

 

[trinidad]

You know, I really dont understand peoples mentallity sometimes when it comes to cycling. Why would you want to run NPP for 16wks when you could get by so much easier with the regular deca?? I mean, we have people wanting to run suspension and prop for 12wks straight!! I just dont get it.

Yeah being that npp is quick acting deca, the purpose being to "get in and get out", as opposed to long acting deca for slow, steady gains. Running NPP straight through for 16 wks would be like running a deca cycle for 25 wks.

 

[dougmug]

I never said 16 weeks on NPP (EQ 16 weeks). I posted 12 weeks and was considering lowering to 10 weeks.

Thanks for the advice everyone. I knew everyone was going to suggest running higher test and dropping either Eq or NPP. However I should have stated that I don't do well with Test.

Can someone please answer my question on how you would split up the shots?

 

[dougmug]

bump

 

[Outtlaw]

I never said 16 weeks on NPP (EQ 16 weeks). I posted 12 weeks and was considering lowering to 10 weeks.

Thanks for the advice everyone. I knew everyone was going to suggest running higher test and dropping either Eq or NPP. However I should have stated that I don't do well with Test.

Can someone please answer my question on how you would split up the shots?

I dont know why you'd run NPP longer than 8wks. Timing of shots depends on what compound your talking about, but you should already know that if your planning on using things like NPP and eq.

 

[dougmug]

I dont know why you'd run NPP longer than 8wks. Timing of shots depends on what compound your talking about, but you should already know that if your planning on using things like NPP and eq.

Why so cocky with your replys Outlaw? I'm just looking for other opinions. From research I was planning on shots wit Eq/NPP every third day. I also read from a respected poster on another board that you should do NPP every 4th day. I'm just looking for some help so I do things correctly. Ease up a little. I didn't bash you for misreading my original post!

 

[Outtlaw]

Why so cocky with your replys Outlaw? I'm just looking for other opinions. From research I was planning on shots wit Eq/NPP every third day. I also read from a respected poster on another board that you should do NPP every 4th day. I'm just looking for some help so I do things correctly. Ease up a little. I didn't bash you for misreading my original post!

I didnt misread your post. I know you said 12wks, but someone else suggested 16, and neither way make sense. You should already have your answer about the injection times. Eq doesnt need to be shot more than once a week. You already know about the npp... so common sense should allow you to figure it out.