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My Lipostabil Experience (finally complete)

brownpaperbag04

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My Lipostabil Experience (post #1)

I decided to keep a journal of sorts, detailing the information about my experience with lipostabil. Hopefully it will be helpful for anyone interested in doing it in the future. First of all, I'm using the "new formula" of lipostabil from www.cyber-solutionz.com

I got my body fat checked the day before I started and it is as follows:
Body Fat %: 10.4
Body Weight: 188 lbs
Lean Body Mass: 168.4 lbs
Fat Mass: 19.6 lbs
Basil Metbolic Rate: 2383
Skin Folds
Chest: 6 mm
Subscapular: 9 mm
Thigh: 15 mm
Midaxillary: 6 mm
Abdomen: 21 mm
Tricep: 11.5 mm
Suprailiac: 10 mm

My waist (at the belly button) measured 36 inches even.

I will be doing 3 day cycles of DNP over the weekends. The DNP dosages will be 1000mg/875/625. Please read up on DNP before you try doing it!!!

I’ll also be doing a bulking diet during the course of these sessions. The first week I did pretty restricted low fat and a calorie amount just over my BMR. After week one I did see-food and didn't count calories. Another bit of information, I’m not sure if it’s relevant or not, but I’ll be doing tanning sessions every other day. After week 1 the sessions were 20 minutes+ each.

I will be following the “Body for Life” workouts…but I usually don’t take any day off. It’s upper-body, cardio, lower-body, cardio…then start over. I’m in the gym 7 days a week. …One of the main reasons I’m doing this workout over a more bulking type is that I started it before bulking and it actually made me sore for the first time in about 6 months. I figured I must be working my muscles pretty good…and I’ve had pretty good initial results from using it before bulking anyway.

I am injecting only in my abdomen/waist area since that's the area with the most fat on my body. I did 1 shot in each upper and mid ab, then the remaining 6 shots spread about 1 inch from the side of my belly button. I also did 5 shots to each of the "love handles" on the sides of my waist. (20 total shots of .5ml each)

There is pretty detailed information about how to do sub injections at this site: http://www.hghnews.us/index.php?p=175,297 It's the one I referenced to do the injections...along with a few forum threads from www.beyondmass.com (just click search and type in “lipostabil”)

I will be doing 5 injection sessions to the previously mentioned sites once every 5 days.
--Session 1--
I did the first series of the injections today. The 29g 1/2 inch insulin pinz went in pain-free. There was some bleeding at some of the sites, but it was minimal. It's been about 30 minutes now and there is no tenderness or swelling.

**Post Session 1**
The first 2 days went by fine. On the 2nd day I noticed the areas I injected into felt a bit sore…but no real pain. On the 3rd still the same soreness (no better/no worse) but I did notice that the injection areas felt kind of hard under my skin…I’m not sure how to describe it well. It kind of feels like flexed muscle, but quite small (about the size of a pair of toe nail clippers) and in the areas I injected. I also measured my waist again and it’s now at around 35 ¼ inches. That could just be variation since I don’t remember under what conditions I measured the first time (like if it was right after a meal). From now on I’ll measure first thing in the morning before eating breakfast.


--Session 2—

Injected 5 shots into each love handle and 10 into my ab area. It went much like the first session, except I had one that hit a vein…so I bled a bit. I actually have 2 small bruises this time. They’re a little smaller than a dime. Same amount of soreness at the end of the day.

**Post Session 2**
The soreness went away fast this time…after 2 days. Still have the small bruises but they’re fading fast.


--Session 3—
Same injection spots, everything went basically the same as session 2. I decided not to take pics for the remainder of the injections because I didn’t think they would be too relevant. I’m just going to take one about a week after the last injection session to compare results.

--Session 4—
Same injection spots, I had 2 places that actually bled enough to make a drop of blood run down my skin. No real pain though. I measured my waist again…it’s about 35.5 inches still. I can definitely tell that there is some swelling today though…a bunch of little hard spots, especially on my sides (love handles).

**Post Session 4**
There seems to be a bigger abundance of hard spots this time. Maybe it’s just build up from the past, I’m not sure. My waist is still around the same size. I can definitely tell there is swelling this time though…especially on my upper abs.

-Session 5-
Everywhere I was injecting was still a bit hard/swelled from session 4. I went ahead with the injections though. There was no additional pain or bleeding even if I injected into a place that was a bit hard.

**Post Session 5**
The first and second day after session five I was somewhat sore in the areas I injected, more than any of the past sessions. After day two though, everything was back to normal as far as soreness. I can definitely tell now that there is swelling without a doubt. Waist measurements are still about the same, 35.5-36 inches. I assume after the swelling goes down I will have lost around 2 inches…maybe more. Another note is I missed some of my DNP doses the first day of this weekend. I did 375mg the first day, 800mg the second, then 625 the third.

**Another Post Session 5**
It took about 3 and ½ weeks for the hard spots to completely disappear. After they were completely gone my waist measurements were back to normal …around 36 inches. I was a bit disappointed. I also got my BF tested today and it basically proves that lipostabil isn’t worth that much (maybe it would be very different for cutting). Anyway, my BF went up to 11.9%, I imagine mostly because of the see-food diet which I’ve never done before. My ab measurements went up to 24mm (abdomen) and 12mm (suprailiac). These measurements may be a little off comparatively since a different person gave me my end measurements.


---My Final Thoughts---
I would not suggest buying lipostabil. I think the most important factor, obviously, is diet. Since I’ve started lifting I’ve only once before had an increase in body fat (over one Christmas) …but I’ve always kept my diet in check before (even when bulking). Granted, over this time I did gain about 13lbs of lean muscle mass…I know I could’ve done it w/o putting on the fat if I watched my diet and didn’t rely on lipostabil to keep the excess off.

-End Stats-
Body Fat %: 11.9
Body Weight: 205 lbs
Lean Body Mass: 181 lbs
Fat Mass: 24 lbs
Basil Metbolic Rate: 2567
Skin Folds
Chest: 7 mm
Subscapular: 11 mm
Thigh: 14.5 mm
Midaxillary: 10.5 mm
Abdomen: 24.5 mm
Tricep: 9.5 mm
Suprailiac: 12 mm
 
im still curious to see the results if someone used real "lipostabil" from Aventis, not underground Phosphatidylcholine and followed the same methods doctors use by using it in conjuction with Tiratricol and Procaine
 
Thanks for posting. I was interested in it for a while but it seems after all the hype about it last year it turns out to be just useless.

Thanks for the links.
 
I wouldn't be too quick to disount the whole thing based on one or two people's results. Especially since I have been getting some results using an everyday transdermal. I will take pics soon and post them in the transdermal thread.
 
Parabellum said:
Thanks for posting. I was interested in it for a while but it seems after all the hype about it last year it turns out to be just useless.

Thanks for the links.




tell that to the doctors who use it religiously....i havent seen any posts by anyone who used it correctly, they all got it from research companies who jumped on the "lipostabil" bandwagon. i saw a doctor post on one site that he felt it was 50% more effective with tiratricol.
 
NJjuice22 said:
and your point?

it's harder to get and sometimes more expensive than if it were still legal. also I'd like to see some research that proves it's effectiveness specifically with lipostabil. it's just an agent that raises metabolism as far as I've read.
 
how did u inject the stuff? did u inject it deep in the muscle? Lipostabil have to be injected sub q in the fat adipose tissue otherwise it will not work.
 
interesting, but do you think the 'see food' diet was really the best diet to use to evaluate the effectiveness of lipostabil? I mean, in the end your BF went up....that means that DNP didn't help either.
 
EngiCream said:
interesting, but do you think the 'see food' diet was really the best diet to use to evaluate the effectiveness of lipostabil? I mean, in the end your BF went up....that means that DNP didn't help either.


engi, you a cyclist?
 
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