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My legal bills have exceeded $20,000

thebabydoc said:
Matt:

I can TOTALLY see where you're coming from, just so long as you don't lose sight of who is going to benefit most from any ruling- Drunk drivers.

I personally am saving up to go after Scottsdale for their kangaroo traffic court where 98% of "defendants" are found guilty. Clearly that number is indefensible and provides for a prima facia/ ips respo loquitor case but I want to BURY them for every ticket they've written or collected on in the past 10 years. (Notice that DUI will NOT be affected because it is criminal and those that go to trial would not fall in the category of the kangaroo civil traffic court.) I figure a good case will run about $100K but we're gonna see about class action which might make some decent lawyers crawl out of the woodwork.

I understand the righteous indignation at the infinite authority given to police and the shit they get away with, but your $20K is directed at the wrong place.

You will not establish precedent with this case and as you said, any precedent you set will be zapped ASAP. DWI is a SERIOUS problem and a serious topic in this country. You need to address police abuse of power and, more specifically, this particular officer who felt within his rights to arrest you (given the circumstances YOU described for us).

Better precedent would be to send the message that when an officer abuses his power he will have to personally answer for it, either in court or, ahem, cough, cough, on a more personal level. I can assure you that $20,000 would have gotten a whole lot more effect spent elsewhere.


Good advice.
 
Dui in the states is a criminal offense. Usually a midemeanor unless it is aggravated dui then it becomes a felony.

There are usually two parts to a dui. The first is the civil part where you lose your license. The second is the criminal part.

Most people I know got off of a dui for 1500 bucks or less.

For 20 grand you are getting screwed. Unless you were involved in an accident as a result of your dui and there were injuries or you ran from the cops, etc. Could this also be like your 3rd or 4th one?
 
thebabydoc said:


Better precedent would be to send the message that when an officer abuses his power he will have to personally answer for it, either in court or, ahem, cough, cough, on a more personal level. I can assure you that $20,000 would have gotten a whole lot more effect spent elsewhere.

Do you really think the cop will give a shit about that ? Most of them have unions and honestly, in the last 10 years I've seen only cop fired. It's a lost battle....
 
Matt would you like to be my sons Godfather? :) j/k I hope everything works out well for you.
 
manny78 said:
Do you really think the cop will give a shit about that ? Most of them have unions and honestly, in the last 10 years I've seen only cop fired. It's a lost battle....
He'll give a shit when either a) he is held PERSONALLY liable for his actions or b) he feels the physical repercussions of his actions. Cops that abuse the law in any way, no matter how small are the worst criminals in society because their actions invalidate the entire system of laws.
 
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