My IGF experience...

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

Just finished off 1mg of IGF. Used it at 60mcg a day for 16 days.
To be honest I didnt get great results. I finished my last cycle at 220lb and today (a month on), I am 215lb.
I did a full PCT with nolva (20mg a day for 21 days) and trib (1500mg for 25 days) and some HCG in final week of cycle.
I have kept some of my gains for sure, as only ran a 6 week prop and tren ace cycle. Probably kept 2lb of muscle in all. However, I believe I would have kept the 2lb on just nolva, hcg and trib alone.
Will I take some again?? Maybe I will try it again next time..
I did get a few sides... first few days I had extreme thirst and headaches and gained 5lb in three days only to lose it all over the following 13 days (obviously water retention of some kind).
After the first few days I got wierd stomach aches, not bad but enough to feel like hunger pains but I wasnt actually hungry?! I have read about this side effect in other users too.
I would say that IGF has its place in PCT along with the normal supps but it is no miracle drug.. Gear, a good diet and heavy training and consistency will produce a better physique than a few HGH or IGF cycles.

 

[drrman]

just in comment, that is a relatively low dosage to what i see great effects from and 16 days isn't nearly long enough....just in comment.

Next time, try 80-100mcg for 40 days and i think you'll like it

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

i have read loads of posts stating 40mcg is just fine. i thought 60mcg was a bit too much! 100mcg seems loads. in muscular development, palumbo says do just 13mcg a day for 40 dyas?

 

[Ulter]

MM this is about the same post I have seen regarding igf for 5 years. I'm actually quite surprised it's still around given the wild swings in the reviews of it. And especially considering most vets and mods found it useless back in 2001-2002 and posted as much.

 

[needtogetaas]

hmmmmmm

 

[drrman]

well, people can do or say what they want....10-15mcg isn't going to show you jack shit, 50-60 will yeild some results, and at 100mcg its impossible not to notice the results.

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

so ulter your stating that igf is useless?

 

[Ulter]

For the most part yeah. The potential side effects vs the minimal results and cost is why most people stopped using it 5 years ago. Useless may be a little strong. Example: Most prohormones work to some degree so they aren't useless but if you consider the result/cost they aren't worth using.

 

[Indy]

Just finished off 1mg of IGF. Used it at 60mcg a day for 16 days.
To be honest I didnt get great results. I finished my last cycle at 220lb and today (a month on), I am 215lb.
I did a full PCT with nolva (20mg a day for 21 days) and trib (1500mg for 25 days) and some HCG in final week of cycle.
I have kept some of my gains for sure, as only ran a 6 week prop and tren ace cycle. Probably kept 2lb of muscle in all. However, I believe I would have kept the 2lb on just nolva, hcg and trib alone.
Will I take some again?? Maybe I will try it again next time..
I did get a few sides... first few days I had extreme thirst and headaches and gained 5lb in three days only to lose it all over the following 13 days (obviously water retention of some kind).
After the first few days I got wierd stomach aches, not bad but enough to feel like hunger pains but I wasnt actually hungry?! I have read about this side effect in other users too.
I would say that IGF has its place in PCT along with the normal supps but it is no miracle drug.. Gear, a good diet and heavy training and consistency will produce a better physique than a few HGH or IGF cycles.

Gotta say your results are not the norm, and thankfully exact opposite for me, I have never seen anything work like this does on me, but I start at 100mcg/day and work up abit over 4 or 5 week cycles, no sides. IMO, it rocks and blows hgh away any day.

 

[drrman]

For the most part yeah. The potential side effects vs the minimal results and cost is why most people stopped using it 5 years ago. Useless may be a little strong. Example: Most prohormones work to some degree so they aren't useless but if you consider the result/cost they aren't worth using.

well i have to disagree... the Long R3 version wasn't even circulating 5 years ago where people had a chance to use it, only the regular version......IT DOES WORK and I know plenty of people it has worked for.

 

[Mr.X]

Just finished off 1mg of IGF. Used it at 60mcg a day for 16 days.
To be honest I didnt get great results. I finished my last cycle at 220lb and today (a month on), I am 215lb.

You took media grade, reconstituted IGF-1, correct?

I'll go over with you why it didn't work after I verify this.

 

[drrman]

You took media grade, reconstituted IGF-1, correct?

I'll go over with you why it didn't work after I verify this.

Just to say something else here which i think MR X is gonna say also, I ALWAYS buy my IGF in the powder form, NOT constituted.......I always constitute it myself with an acetic acid buffer solution, then draw out, then draw from a .9% sodium chloride solution to inject.....MOST of the complaints of non-results i have seen are when people buy the stuff already constituted in water.....im sure X will delve into this deeper!

 

[Mr.X]

Just to say something else here which i think MR X is gonna say also, I ALWAYS buy my IGF in the powder form, NOT constituted.......I always constitute it myself with an acetic acid buffer solution, then draw out, then draw from a .9% sodium chloride solution to inject.....MOST of the complaints of non-results i have seen are when people buy the stuff already constituted in water.....im sure X will delve into this deeper!

You pretty much hit the nail on the head. On top of this, there are differences between media and receptor grade IGF-1. Media grade is 72% pure while receptor grade is 99% pure; however, media grade purity can go down to 40-60% depending on the manufacturer. Media grade IGF-1 is an inferior product, and it's usually reconstituted when you buy it. Meaning someone has pre-mixed it. IGF-1 media grade must be pre-mixed since it is not as pure and is NOT stable while being shipped. Thus, it can arrive, after shipping, all shaken up and worthless. On the other hand, lyophilized powder receptor grade IGF-1 is highly superior and much more stable. Thus, you know when it arrives it will be in good shape.

Hence the variable results from IGF, person to person. Most people are financially not ready to start quality IGF-1 receptor grade, since it runs about $700/mg on the BM. Therefore, they go out buy cheap reconstituted media grade and play and hit and miss game.

 

[drrman]

You pretty much hit the nail on the head. On top of this, there are differences between media and receptor grade IGF-1. Media grade is 72% pure while receptor grade is 99% pure; however, media grade purity can go down to 40-60% depending on the manufacturer. Media grade IGF-1 is an inferior product, and it's usually reconstituted when you buy it. Meaning someone has pre-mixed it. IGF-1 media grade must be pre-mixed since it is not as pure and is NOT stable while being shipped. Thus, it can arrive, after shipping, all shaken up and worthless. On the other hand, lyophilized powder receptor grade IGF-1 is highly superior and much more stable. Thus, you know when it arrives it will be in good shape.

Hence the variable results from IGF, person to person. Most people are financially not ready to start quality IGF-1 receptor grade, since it runs about $700/mg on the BM. Therefore, they go out buy cheap reconstituted media grade and play and hit and miss game.

Agreed, ...i can't afford the receptor grade myself, i get it in powder form from a reputable guy and constitute it myself with the acetic acid buffer solution, it supposed to stay stable for longer, also i can afford to take a much higher dosage of the media grade to make up the difference, hence probably why i like the 100mcg+ dosage

I've just seen such great results from this product i don't see how one can say its junk?

 

[taureauchien]

i'm on day 11 or 12
started at 80 mcg per day, split 50/50 morning and evening
cant say i notice much, i did get the stuff premixed not powder form.
i bumped it up to 100 mcg a couple days ago to see if that will help.
but other than loss of appetite (actually let me explain this too)
i am hungry constantly...just cant eat. everytime i do i take a couple bites and am so stuffed feeling i could puke. but 5 minutes later i'm starving.
and cycle repeats.
anyway that is one side affect.
i alternate shoulder shots and upper arms are numb. sucks when you get an itch but cant tell your scratching.
now granted i still have 3 weeks left of it.
and i do hope something good comes out of it.
but right now i'm a little bitter because of the eating part. i weigh less than when i started my whole cycle (test) was up 7lbs now down 8
and dont think it was all water weight either because i was pretty good with the nolva and stuff
just my 2 cents

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

mr x,

mine was already made up when i bought it. it was omega labs if that means anything. a mate of mine used it too and said his results were ok but nothing great from what i saw.

touchen,

i also felt hungry on it but felt nauseous some days which was odd and i didnt eat much over 4000 cals a day even though i expected to be ravenous on it for food.

maybe i should just get some good ol jino and run 4iu a day with slin. i know that works!

 

[peach0341]

I thought omega was supposed to be pretty good? What companies make it in the powder form? Thanks

 

[Mr.X]

Agreed, ...i can't afford the receptor grade myself, i get it in powder form from a reputable guy and constitute it myself with the acetic acid buffer solution, it supposed to stay stable for longer, also i can afford to take a much higher dosage of the media grade to make up the difference, hence probably why i like the 100mcg+ dosage

I've just seen such great results from this product i don't see how one can say its junk?

They can say it's junk, because they are buying junk product. I believe you get what you pay for. I rather see people save up for 1 bottle of lyophilized receptor grade then 3 bottles of media grade reconstituted.

Just as a side note, I saw some guys lately selling "receptor" grade lyophilized IGF, for $250, DO NOT BUY INTO IT! if it's too good to be true, it is. This product is going for $700/mg on the BM and they magically charge 200 for it, bullshit! I can't believe they would pull this scam. It's clearly media grade powder, but they are trying to pass it off as receptor grade. So, users, BEWARE of IGF scams, there are a lot out there - don't trust companies pushing a $700 product for $200!

 

[drrman]

Agree with MR. X...the receptor grade would undoubtably be a better choice, but just impossible to afford.....The IGTropin kits by gensci are a good price if you get them over seas, but i still prefer the 1mg powder in a vial..

Also, most "sources" the are selling the powder form don't advertise and don't have websites, they are legitimate UG sources selling the stuff......

 

[bissenmir]

So is omega junk? I almost got some but the whole cancer threads scared me.
I've heard IGTropin kits by gensci are just fancy label and packing. Is that true?

 

[drrman]

So is omega junk? I almost got some but the whole cancer threads scared me.
I've heard IGTropin kits by gensci are just fancy label and packing. Is that true?

yeh, im pretty sure they are just media grade also, and overpriced

 

[kbrkbr]

Just to say something else here which i think MR X is gonna say also, I ALWAYS buy my IGF in the powder form, NOT constituted.......I always constitute it myself with an acetic acid buffer solution, then draw out, then draw from a .9% sodium chloride solution to inject.....MOST of the complaints of non-results i have seen are when people buy the stuff already constituted in water.....im sure X will delve into this deeper!

I've used receptor and media grade, powder and reconstituted, at doses up to 100mcg, and didn't see shit.

One of my workout partners claims it's a miracle drug. Then again, he's never used it without fina and isn't too bright to begin with.

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

thinking about it i aint using any again. just gonna stick to some heavy AAS stacks now and shit loads of food. maybe some HGH one day. Especially with me getting scared shitless over the IGF then finding out after two weeks it didnt do nothing i wont be involved again with that shit.

 

[drrman]

I've used receptor and media grade, powder and reconstituted, at doses up to 100mcg, and didn't see shit.

One of my workout partners claims it's a miracle drug. Then again, he's never used it without fina and isn't too bright to begin with.

let me get this right bro, because for some reason i don't believe you....

You have used receptor, media, and constituted, so you have tried at least three kinds of IGF.....now, if i paid a lump of cash for two cycles of something, and i didn't see shit, why would i pay for it a third time? Thats like jumping off a cliff two times and breaking your leg both times and jumping a third time thinking you will fly?

 

[Ozz2001]

Lets compare it to a tren cycle and see who gets more bang for the buck! If anyones like me i spend my money i want to see results and not just 2 or 3 pounds either. You can do that without AAS,just by eating right!

 

[drrman]

Lets compare it to a tren cycle and see who gets more bang for the buck! If anyones like me i spend my money i want to see results and not just 2 or 3 pounds either. You can do that without AAS,just by eating right!

bro, that just like comparing apples to oranges pardon the gay ass cliche.....both have their place and both work on a different level

 

[kbrkbr]

let me get this right bro, because for some reason i don't believe you....

You have used receptor, media, and constituted, so you have tried at least three kinds of IGF.....now, if i paid a lump of cash for two cycles of something, and i didn't see shit, why would i pay for it a third time? Thats like jumping off a cliff two times and breaking your leg both times and jumping a third time thinking you will fly?

I've used it twice. The first was receptor grade reconstituted. Got nothing. The only reason I tried it a second time, media grade powder, was because I was stupid and bought into all the hype. Again, I got nothing.

 

[i am what i am]

My IGF experience was unbelievable. I took 1mg of receptor grade IGF. I diluted it with bacteriostatic water. Kept only 1 cc in the bottle and kept the rest store in my freezer in a sterilized syringe. Took only 1 shot in the morning at 40 mcg. I was stuck at 235. Was 6 weeks into a sust/primo cycle. After I introduced the IGF R3 my weight in 4 weeks went to 250 and i lost 2% BF. Don't think everybody reacts this way, but receptor grade is much better than any other out there.