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my first proper cycle at age 21..your inputs required

amandhody

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hello everyone.i need help planning my first proper cycle.i was facing some low test issues and lost 12 kgs of pure muscle mass which su**s.i also had gynaecomastia which i got removed surgically.now planning to get back atleast where i was cause 12 kgs naturally is a long way that too all over again.i have started looking anaemic.i saved some money and
got 16 primobolan ampoules(schering,turkey,100mg)
550 mg oxandrolone(british dragon-10 mg tab)
and close to 25 pds quality whey protien by natures best.
also was not able to get test prop.my supplier said that he currently has test suspension.
can u guys plz help to design a cycle which would promote solid gains that are not water and are retainable after cycle.
for pct i can get everything-hcg,arimidex,clomid,nolvadexetc.....in india all these drugs are dirt cheap...:-)
waiting for your inputs ----ex how long cycle and what dosages and what kind of pct......
any medicine can be arranged...
the only problem is that i am 21 and worried about my test levels post cycle cause i am on the lower average side genetically...had a feminine appearance which i managed to overcome with 2.5 years of workout......
any help is highly appriciated..thank you
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stats-height 5'11.5
weight-74 kgs
bodyfat-not sure approx.13-15% could be less
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what most people will tell you on here mate is that if you cant plan a cycle for yourslef then your not ready for a cycle

knowledge is power my friend

you must research more
 
i trully respect what u think conrad...why i am asking u guys is because of different theories......one i hear to run 500 mg test ent and 500 mg deca..in the other hand some steroid gurus say the low the dose the better it works...i read a group using 10 mg d bol and getting the samersults as 50 mg..i dnt knnow why,,if i had told somebody to take just 10 mg d bol ppl would laugh.............just wanted to know what u guys think.....sorry did not post the cycle the i thought was gud :

i am starting with a very mild cycle...just to see how this effects cause of my history
200 mg primo a week(100 mg every 3 days....)
test prop 100 mg every two days or sustanon 100 mg every 3 days
anavar 20 mg ed(thats all i have big bro)
small amounts of arimidex on cycle to fight bloat(though this is low androgenic-jus being safer)
pct will start after 8-10 days after last injection
clomid 150 mgs and nolva 20 mg
gradually tapering the dose of pct over 3 weeks......
do u guys think this will work..and if not plz tell which one to add or minus...thanks a heap
 
conrad said:
what most people will tell you on here mate is that if you cant plan a cycle for yourslef then your not ready for a cycle

knowledge is power my friend

you must research more

Well said!! If you can't make a cycle yourself, i agree you are not ready! It sucks and we know your so excited to start, but believe me, you won't be asking too many questions when you have done enough research.
 
bro bro bro.... indeed when the guys here say you need to read more, they don't lie. Even 250 test a week of any kind will send your test levels out the roof, but you have to be ready for it. You must have a set diet and exercise routine down or you will get lots of weight and lose it post cycle if you don't do it right.
 
thank you so much for you rreply bro......so do u think that a light androgenic compound will be gud to start with.......i mean the cycle mentioned above or rather a shorter cycle say 2-3 weeker for me........designing cycle is not the question...i see most of you are exprienced and will give gud advice................
 
amandhody said:
thank you so much for you rreply bro......so do u think that a light androgenic compound will be gud to start with.......i mean the cycle mentioned above or rather a shorter cycle say 2-3 weeker for me........designing cycle is not the question...i see most of you are exprienced and will give gud advice................

Your first cycle should only be test and nothing else.

Also you are 21, I doubt you have test problems unless you fried your endocrine system already.
 
hankes64 thanks for taking out time..i dont know if i have fried my endocrine or not deliberately by any of my actions...but got a blood work and my t levels were lower average..and this has been since birth..also had gynaecomastia which was not roid induced.....so what do u sugest...an 8 weeker with test cyp or ent or some thing new i heard like a 2-3 weeker with shorter acting compounds like test suspension.
i just dont want to mess things up...also 3-5 pds would satisfy me if they are solid gains and not much water.thanks bro
 
first cycle needs to be low dose test to see how your body responds to the gear. test 250mg/wk for 10wks.if your diet and training are in check you can gain on on a low dose test cycle for your first cycle. keep a log and when it"s time for your 2nd cycle it will be easier to design it
 
hankes64 said:
Your first cycle should only be test and nothing else.

Also you are 21, I doubt you have test problems unless you fried your endocrine system already.


Not true, You cycle should coincide with your knowledge and workout/eating habbits, as well as goals.
 
surferstar said:
Not true, You cycle should coincide with your knowledge and workout/eating habbits, as well as goals.

Thats wonderful, he also needs to assess how well his body will react to AAS, so why not an andorgenic and anabolic one, rather light to test it out? Again Test should be the first cycle of anyone.
 
gee thanks all you guys.....i'll start with something like solid spine said and post the results after the completion...that was a great help..btw i managed to get schering turkey primos100mg real cheap in india.it costs 6-7 $if converted in dollars.which is what makes me hapy:-)and will get test enth tday and some arimidex...also would proviron be required? and i had test suspension with me which i had to pick up in a settlement with my supplement dealer.its just lying there on the shelf.would that be of any use cause that will be really short acting and i dont plan to inject every day ion my first injectable cycle:-(...thanks for all the help
 
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