My first fight...

[Inspector]

So last night was my first real fight,

My friends and I were at a bar, and two guys were trying to hit on some girls i know.

We were civil about it, or at least tried to be. Until one of the two guys starts yapping on about what a "big" mofo his friend is, and how the guy is apparently tough. Things stopped there, until later on in the evening, some guy about 6'7 pretty heavy, comes up to us and starts questioning us about who head butted his friend earlier... I thought yep here we go a token bullshit excuse to try and provoke us. The guy made a move for my friend and i stand in his way and put my arm out blocking him. (so glad i work out ) the big guy then starts taking back things he said, and that he was only trying to get to the bottom of things and diffuse the situation.

Security then gets involved and drags me and 3 of my friends out of there. So were all outside waiting for someone to come pick us up, and my friends are talking about how much they want to fu** the people up. Now all well and good but when one in particular is all talk and no walk, you know your going to get entagled in the shit and either take the blows or fight for him.

Then the guys we had argued with come outside.. and walk straight past us... no problems whatsoever. They had numbers of 10 or more. Then my friend bringing up the argument, eventually the argument resumes and the fight breaks out, security tries to disperse it, the 10 or more people each brought their friends along, and it was on for young and old. I shepparded one of my friends who was about to get sidelined, then one big mofo smacked me with surprise punches from behind. Now i havent been hit in years, but the age old theorys are true.
-dogs arent as fierce as their bark
-size doesnt mean you know how to throw a punch.
-some security guards are wankers

My other friends are in skirmishes elsewhere, noticing it didnt hurt my reflexes to start fighting didnt kick in, i just wanted to go home at this point by now we were outnumbered 10-1, and even if that huge group of guys was just a bunch of girls who punch like fairys. The mathematics would catch up to us.

Which brings me to my point, I read in a previous post somewhere that in a rumble, or when getting jumped by multiple people you can actually come out with less bruises the more opponents are present?

Last night i found this to be true, standing your ground with your guard up and just keeping some distance between the guys coming at you is golden. Keep them at bay with some pushing, and then sneak in some punches. This way the rumble is over sooner. And you can still go home in one piece.

Some people would disagree, one of my friends afterwards wanted to continue the fight. Even when security diffused the situation and the nancy boys realised attacking en masse, and running to charge at people on slippery ground isnt effective. My friend still wanted to incite something as there was one person he wanted to get.

Another question, what can i do to convince this person that,
-you shouldnt fight with odds are 10-1, with security guards also in the mood to hit you
-you shouldnt fight if you dont know how to fight
-the "honour" in beating the fuck out of someone, who tapped you on the cheek doesnt exist.

So. this was one of my first posts and its a long one.
any thoughts fellas on these issues..

Do you allways come out unscathed or close to it when many people attack you?

Whats your philospohy or technique in diffusing a fight or fighting multiple pansys, and skilled fighter in a street fight?

Did i do the right thing by not escalating the fight further by just defending my friends, should i have sought vengance for being tapped on the jaw?

...and what gets blood stains out of white shirts?

 

[Inhibitor13]

First off, I think you did the right thing bro.... I never try to let anything so stupid escalate.

For convincing your friend...theres nothing you can really say to him to make him understand....I guess he'll learn the hard way and get the shit beat out of him one day cuz I hardly doubt you will always be there for him. Also, I think even if you did know how to fight, you still shouldnt fight...unless your life is in danger, then its time for you to kill.

As far as coming out unscrathed, it depends on the scenerio. I bet none of you might have thought perhaps one of those guys might have had a knife/gun on them. Think how easy it would have been for them to use it on any of you. i dont know about you but my lifes not worth a mere argument. So you should definatley smack your buddy in the mouth next time he tries to pull that shit again, especially if the people you were fighting with decided to be the bigger men and walk away (and yes even though they started it) but they were going to end it and would have left it at that.

My technique in diffusing a fight...simple, walk away! Always remember..ANYTHING can happen in a street fight! Ive never had any kind of weopon pulled on me yet and I hope I never do. I have had some buddies who have had that happen to em, one of which a knife to his throat. I wish i was there for that, cuz the person holding that knife would have ended up in the hospital cuz I would have beaten the fuck out of him.

Well thats my thoughts on the subjects..others might beg the differ.....welcome to the board! See ya around!

Inhibitor

 

[Snypr]

There aren't any rules that prove true in every scenario. The way you played it was reasonable. Good thing no one got stabbed or shot.
The real question is will you continue to go out with the same group(or the one friend) if it means possibly getting into the same situation?

 

[Kane Fan]

basically I'd slap the living shit out of your friend
friend or not his attitude isn't worth yoru life

 

[Saintinistic]

Awesome for standing your ground and not getting caught up in the hype. I wouldve cracked my friend for opening his mouth. Dumb shit that puts others at risk needs dealing with. if they hadve had a gun, youll be dead over something that wasnt going to happen. They tested you, and you convinced them it wasnt worth the effort, but your mate mouthed off and they had to react or lose face.

Dont go out with your friend again to a bar, until he can control his mouth.

I had a mate who in the middle of a confrontation tell me to "fuck off" when i warned him that it was a set up, so I did, i backed off and he mouthed off, and he got slaughtered, iI only stepped in when they were going to group kick him on the ground. he got a snapped archiles tendon, black eyes and concussion. I looked after the youngest in our group, and everyone got what they deserved. I had no injuries, neither did the guy I shadowed. Just the big mouth got hurt.

I never went out with that guy again, and he had to leave town as he continued to mouth off to people about revenge and they went and got him. dumb all round.

Hang with mature people with level heads and self control and you will be 99% free of the bar room political shit.

 

[A FREAK]

that almost happened to me once or twice i think...i cocky cats nowadays no?

 

[Inspector]

Thanks for the replies.

The guy in question has since appologised, and we have all agreed in future we will be the first to smack him out.

These fights trying to prove aimless things are complete bullshit. It was a lucky situation in that no bottles were left lying around, or anyone brought a knife.

At the end of the day the pub loses, as their attendance might drop for the next few weeks. And wankers that jump into random fights and throw cheap shots are still low lifes.

Regardless ive been thinking of picking up a martial art seriously, I have had some casual training in boxing but nothing special.
For basic deffense what styles work great in these situations?
Is bjj pointless with multiple people?

 

[tanka]

do you always come out unscathed when many people attack you?the answer to that question is, and bodies in morgues don't lie. no, not always.it depends on the nature and armoury of the attackers.i would not give that theory any credence .a man will recognise and react as the result of observation and judgement and not because he holds some theory or belief.what philosophy is successful in dealing with multiple attackers and skilled fighters?firstly, make sure you or your car has full and comprehensive insurance .always strike first and with out warning, and don't wait for the round of applause before leaving.