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My First Cycle => Test-E + Anavar

derty

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Hey guys, just looking for some advice on the plan i have set up for my self after doing some of my own research and thread reading.

Stats:
Age-23
Height-5ft9
Weight-162lb
Bf~12% (Already lost about 2% in a month and a half and will be lower by the time i start the cycle)

Aims: Gain some lean muscle mass and cut down near the end of the cycle

Training experience: 3 and half years - sustained injury last year which had me out for 4-5 months

1-12 testosterone enanthate 500mg a week, split mon/thursday
2-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
4-12 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500ius x2 a week
9-14 Anavar 60mg a day, bump to 80mg a day last 2 weeks.
9-14 N2guard (keeps your insides nice and helps protect liver, BP etc)
15-18 clomid 50/50/25/25 mg a day
15-18 Unleashed/postcycle combo
15-18 Daa powder 3g's a day
15-20 Forma-stanzol

extras: nizoral 2% shampoo for scalp health (reduce hair thinning)

what do you guys think? thanks.
 
Hey guys, just looking for some advice on the plan i have set up for my self after doing some of my own research and thread reading.

Stats:
Age-23
Height-5ft9
Weight-162lb
Bf~12% (Already lost about 2% in a month and a half and will be lower by the time i start the cycle)

Aims: Gain some lean muscle mass and cut down near the end of the cycle

Training experience: 3 and half years - sustained injury last year which had me out for 4-5 months

1-12 testosterone enanthate 500mg a week, split mon/thursday
2-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
4-12 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500ius x2 a week
9-14 Anavar 60mg a day, bump to 80mg a day last 2 weeks.
9-14 N2guard (keeps your insides nice and helps protect liver, BP etc)
15-18 clomid 50/50/25/25 mg a day
15-18 Unleashed/postcycle combo
15-18 Daa powder 3g's a day
15-20 Forma-stanzol

extras: nizoral 2% shampoo for scalp health (reduce hair thinning)

what do you guys think? thanks.

you don't need to run test that high and you absolutely should not be running hcg that long... start aromasin week 1 not week 2... run hcgenerate es week 5-12 and then blast hcg week 13-14 at 1000 ius week... run test at 350... anavar dose is right on and running n2guard is right on... as far as pct...

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
unleahsed/post cycle combo n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com


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Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

Phytoserms and HCGenerate
can be used in place of the Unleashed/post cycle combo if they are out of stock

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hey dylan, thanks for giving it a look over.

1-12 testosterone enanthate 350mg a week, split mon/thursday
1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
5-12 HCGenerate- 500ui x2 a week
13-14 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 1000ius x2 a week
9-14 Anavar 60mg a day, bump to 80mg a day last 2 weeks.
9-14 N2guard
15-18 clomid 50/50/25/25 mg a day
15-18 Unleashed/postcycle combo
15-18 Daa powder 3g's a day
15-18 ostarine 25 mg day
15-18 keto burn supplement


sound about right?
 
1-12 testosterone enanthate 350mg a week, split mon/thursday
1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
5-12 HCG- 500ui x2 a week (instead of HCGenerate, just hcg all the way)

13-14 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 1000ius x2 a week
9-14 Anavar 60mg a day, bump to 80mg a day last 2 weeks.
9-14 N2guard
15-18 nolva 20/20/20/20 mg a day
15-18 Unleashed/postcycle combo
15-18 Daa powder 3g's a day
15-18 ostarine 25 mg day
15-18 keto burn supplement


changed to nolva

what was wrong about using HCG for so long?
 
1-12 testosterone enanthate 350mg a week, split mon/thursday
1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
5-12 HCG- 500ui x2 a week (instead of HCGenerate, just hcg all the way)

13-14 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 1000ius x2 a week
9-14 Anavar 60mg a day, bump to 80mg a day last 2 weeks.
9-14 N2guard
15-18 nolva 20/20/20/20 mg a day
15-18 Unleashed/postcycle combo
15-18 Daa powder 3g's a day
15-18 ostarine 25 mg day
15-18 keto burn supplement


changed to nolva

what was wrong about using HCG for so long?

you will become desensitized to hcg that long... it is mimicking lh and over time that is a terrible thing... hcg could increase the aromatase activity in the leydig cells therefore increasing estrogen production. Estrogen is elevated by two ways from HCG use. Primarily from the sharp rise in testosterone, which allows more testosterone to aromatize to estrogen. Secondly HCG can cause a small amount of estrogen to be produced which is not from the result of aromatizing. Do I need to go on? This is why a product like hcgenerate is so beneficial... It does not cause any of these issues and keeps your suppression to a minimum and your libido high...
 
I would use something to kick start the cycle with. Its going to take a bit to see anything from the test. I would throw in some Tbol for the first 4 weeks or so.

I know Dylan recommended 350mg per week test, but I would run the 500, especially since you aren't running any other injectibles. You can get semi-decent gains at 350, but 500 is much better and an average good popular dose to run.
 
Finally a new guy that has done some research, set up a good cycle with OCT & PCT, and put in 3 years....

I'd agree that @ your size 350 mg's of test is the way to go
 
thanks for the replies, what is your opinon on the best PCT for this cycle? Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20?
 
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