My First Cycle, Order will be on its way.

[ole farte']

and to Old fart, actually Ulter did. I only took information from this site, if it wasn't for elite, I wouldn't know a thing. Anyone could be in my shoes and be talking to a well respected member of this site. Is it my fault to beleive someone who was that respected??

well, not calling you a liar y/g so don't take it that way but i'd have to see the thread. i know he has rec'd a 1st cycle of 1,000mg to guys with Mature muscle and who are hellbent on making pro bb a career. i believe he also said not to throw alot of other compounds in there with it though.

 

[niv]

Oh no, this has turned into a drama thread. Please refrain from such blasphemy.

aaawwwww fffuuuuccckkk yyyooouuuuu yyyoooouuunnngggggunnnsss!!!!!!
stop posting you fagget no one wants to read what you have to say!!
you're better off injecting 500mg of rat poison you fucking duchbag!!

 

[digit0x]

This thread was a train wreck at its inception. You have ignored advice on this forum since you got here, and now you are going to start a cycle at 750mg test per week, your first cycle? You aren't even 20 yet.

yea dude honestly, 750 is too much first time around. my first cycle was sust 250/week. That was lame knowing what i know now about sust, but i still gained 19 pounds and kept 13. plus, since yer young, you still have high nat test, running 750 a week might fuck that up permanently, even after your HPTA returns to normal. you may have nat test of a 50 yr old man at 20 which would hinder your natural gains while off. Consider 500 a good place to start for a well experienced bodybuilder's (maybe athlete) first cycle, which is what a lot of these guys are. I promise you would make 20 lbs 5 weeks in if you know what your doing with 300-400 / wk.

 

[youngguns]

well, not calling you a liar y/g so don't take it that way but i'd have to see the thread. i know he has rec'd a 1st cycle of 1,000mg to guys with Mature muscle and who are hellbent on making pro bb a career. i believe he also said not to throw alot of other compounds in there with it though.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=526491&highlight=gram

 

[frankmasterpiece]

ulter is a good bro on my book,and yes he said that,but he only recomended that to bro's that been training for years and hit there natural limits ,you dont have to agree with him on that... i have my opinion on that, 500mg of test for 10 weeks is good for a newbie ,but ulter did nothing but share his knowlege with us... and i appreciate good brothas like him ...

 

[redguru]

A first cycle should be a gram of test. With an AI. You only have one chance at a first cycle and sides of 500mg aren't much different than 1000mg but the gains difference is tremendous.
That said, youngguns should not be doing a first cycle in the first place. This first cycle is for someone with a good deal of mature muscle mass. Not a 19 year old.

looks like ulter didn't recommend that for you.

 

[youngguns]

Re: Ulter...

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It takes about 3 or 4 years of real good training to get mature muscle mass at minimum. Some guys it takes 5 or more because they don't train religiously.


I have been training 1.5+ years RELIGIOUSLY, I beleive I have mature muscle mass.

 

[redguru]

Re: Ulter...

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It takes about 3 or 4 years of real good training to get mature muscle mass at minimum. Some guys it takes 5 or more because they don't train religiously.


I have been training 1.5+ years RELIGIOUSLY, I beleive I have mature muscle mass.

You are a fucking tool.

 

[ole farte']

Re: Ulter...

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It takes about 3 or 4 years of real good training to get mature muscle mass at minimum. Some guys it takes 5 or more because they don't train religiously.


I have been training 1.5+ years RELIGIOUSLY, I beleive I have mature muscle mass.

I thought i was right on this. Ulter told you not to even start a cycle .

 

[youngguns]

I thought i was right on this. Ulter told you not to even start a cycle .

He did not know how long I had been trainng for. I started powerlifting in grade 11, I did it for 4 months, so if you want to get technical, I have been training for 4 years.