My first cycle in 7 years

[Tidal]

First a little about me. I'm 29, 23% bf (I'll explain) 5'10 220. Between 19 and 22 I did 3 or 4 cycles and lifted like a beast. When I turned 23 I had an injury and basically stop lifting. Mixed with an it job, partying and video games I stopped lifting and got fat. Last year I decided I finally had enough and decided to change my life again. I went from 255 to 215 through diet and exercise over 5 months and returned to the gym. I've been back lifting now hard core for about 6 months 5/6 days a week and decided it was time to start another cycle. Currently i'm staying outside of the US and I have a pharmacy that will sell me anything I want under the table, a pharmacist I've become friends with. I work out with a body builder who is just a massive beast, 6'3 315, probably around 10% bf. He designed a cycle that I've started today yet it's strange because I've never seen a cy le like this.

Please tell me what you think of this, I trust him but I'm no noob to AS, although like I said it's been a few years. Cycle as follows

w1-3: 100 mg dbol Ed, 750 test eth/wk, 200 deca/wk, 1 nova/Ed
w4 100mg clomid/Ed
w5-7 same as w1-3
w8 same as w4
w9-11 same as 1-3
w12 same as w4 with clomid running for 2 weeks

now I trust this guy, who's also a pharmacist, but this cycle looks odd to me.

Any suggestions or comments

 

[Captain FT]

Between 19 and 22 I did 3 or 4 cycles and lifted like a beast. When I turned 23 I had an injury and basically stop lifting. Mixed with an it job, partying and video games I stopped lifting and got fat.

Hello me 10 years ago.

As for the cycle, it doesn't look right but I'm no expert on putting cycles together.

 

[Nemisis RR]

rather extreme since you have no idea how those dosages are going to hit u. Whats the hurry?

 

[Tidal]

No hurry, and for the doses, my past cycles were always something like 500-1000 sust and 50 dbol throughout the cycle. Now the dbol amount seems a bit high to me. The test and dexca amounts seem ok. Also the 3 on 1 off strike me as odd, just never heard of doing that before. It's always been week 1-12 always on with either a prymid, front loading or tappering off throughout.

 

[HAYEZ]

i would do
1-12 test 750
1-10 deca 400
1-6 dbol 40mg
no nolva until 1 days after last test shot
nolva 40mg 14 days
nolva 20mg 14 days
hcg is you have it durign cycle 500iu e3d
arimidex .25mg eod when bloat sets in..take until pct starts

 

[njmuscleguy]

A few thoughts:

1) get your bodyfat down a bit otherwise you won't any muscle or definition...just fat on top of muscle

2) 100mg ED of dbol is crazy IMO...

3) No need to run nolva and/or clomid during a cycle... if you need an AI, use some adex or aromasin

4) personally, I don't think you need 750mg test per week for this cycle to get good gains, especially if you've taken 7 years off... I've gotten great gains with as little as 250-400mg test per week, along with a moderate dosage of another compound.... you learn this as you get more and more cycles under your belt.

 

[Tidal]

As far as the dbol goes, yes I agree it is a bit high. I'll most likely go against what this pharmacist suggested and do 50 ed vs 100.

The test and deca is good for me at the current amounts, which is less than what I have done in the past. This is my first time using deca. All my former cy Les were some form of winny, sust, dbol or ganabol.

And for the body fat yeah it's high but remember I was 255 and about 32% bf less than a year ago and just started lifting again this past Jan. So the bf is coming off fine right now. Went from 255 32% to 213 24% in about 7 months, not bad for all natural.

Only thing I'm trying to figure out is why he has me taking nova all cy le and why I have a week off every 4th week.

I apprecate all the replies. They give me a few different points of view and a few things to think about

 

[njmuscleguy]

As far as the dbol goes, yes I agree it is a bit high. I'll most likely go against what this pharmacist suggested and do 50 ed vs 100.

The test and deca is good for me at the current amounts, which is less than what I have done in the past. This is my first time using deca. All my former cy Les were some form of winny, sust, dbol or ganabol.

And for the body fat yeah it's high but remember I was 255 and about 32% bf less than a year ago and just started lifting again this past Jan. So the bf is coming off fine right now. Went from 255 32% to 213 24% in about 7 months, not bad for all natural.

Only thing I'm trying to figure out is why he has me taking nova all cy le and why I have a week off every 4th week.

I apprecate all the replies. They give me a few different points of view and a few things to think about

nolva & clomid during a cycle is an old-school practice... we've learned alot since then... there's just no need for them... AI's are far better effective for estrogen control (less toxic too)

as for that weird cycling every few weeks...umm...that's just... WEIRD

 

[Tidal]

Anyone have an idea why this guy wants me to stop every 4th week?

I'm thinking of altering the cycle to w1-12 test E @ 500/week, deca @ 200/w and w1-6 anabol 50mg ed. I'll use amidrex e3d if I can get a hold of some For bloating. And of course Clomid for pct.

Considering doing the deca for only 10 weeks